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Just a quick reminder, about 20-30% of Americans supported our independence.

Posted on 9/9/23 at 12:05 am
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 12:05 am
That minority fought for the birth of our constitutional republic, around 30-40% were loyal to the Crown and the rest were indifferent, relatively fat and happy.


This ^^^ is the birth of a nation. The odds of this nation ever becoming the greatest nation in the history of the world rested on the backs of a minority of bad arse revolutionaries. I guess the question is are a minority of Americans going to allow the corrupt and compromised ruling elites and apathetic/pathetic Americans to destroy what so many have fought, bled and died for?
Posted by blowmeauburn
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 12:10 am to
You baws have to get better at your internet skills.
Posted by tgerb8
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 12:12 am to
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I guess the question is are a minority of Americans going to allow the corrupt and compromised ruling elites and apathetic/pathetic Americans to destroy what so many have fought, bled and died for?


Real Talk.....
probably.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 12:35 am to
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You baws have to get better at your internet skills.


Meaning what?

I’ve heard several historians tell of the breakdown of the colonists and their loyalty to the formation of what’s now known as the United States of America. A lot of colonists were indifferent and 30% or more were loyal to the Crown.

My father’s side of the family came over from Scotland as indentured servants, my great, great, great grandfather died in his late 50’s drying gunpowder during the Revolutionary War. You won’t find that information on the internet but you will find it on Ancestry.com if I gave you my grandfather’s surname.
Posted by Chancellor
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 1:41 am to
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You won’t find that information on the internet but you will find it on Ancestry.com




Uhhh. Who’s gonna tell him?



Cool story and otherwise good post, by the way!
Posted by berrycajun
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 1:47 am to
This is a GREAT depiction of those 3 groups during that that time. If you haven’t already watched it, I highly recommend it. It’s based on true characters, and you really get a glimpse of those truly loyal to the crown, those simply afraid to rock the boat, and those who believed in freedom, liberty, and justice for all. Families and friends and neighbors divided.

Just an EXCELLENT series. You can watch on Amazon.

TURN: Washington’s Spies
Season 1 trailer
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GUBi45Y4OIU

These few spies were badass revolutionaries as you put it, and this country would have never been born had it not been for them. So strange that we weren’t taught more about them/Washington’s spies in school.
This post was edited on 9/9/23 at 1:52 am
Posted by berrycajun
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 1:53 am to
Like Jamie in outlander ;)
He fights against the crown. Most of the Scotts hated the red coats after what happened to them in Scotland
This post was edited on 9/9/23 at 1:56 am
Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 2:00 am to
EXCELLENT series! One my favorites ever. Everything about that series was excellent. Samuel Roukin was amazing as Simcoe! And Angus MacFadyen and the guy who played John Andre was, well. Robert Rogers and John Andre are both fascinating people and they did a great job portraying them.

The book is also a great read.
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 4:56 am to
guess I'll break the news
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You won’t find that information on the internet
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Ancestry.com
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 5:04 am to
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20-30% of Americans supported our independence


That's right.

And I think MAGA is at least a solid 1/3 today.
Then there is about 30% leftist/communist and the rest are playing in the middle of the road hoping to not get run over.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42563 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 5:16 am to
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These few spies were badass revolutionaries

actually they were insurrectionists!!

and what you need when dominated by a corrupt power are more insurrectionists.

Only problem with that is - if you are an insurrectionist, you have to actually WIN - or you have wasted your life, your fortune, and your sacred honor. (seems I've heard that phrase before)

in fact when ruled by a dystopia tyrant - only insurrectionists have the honor and responsibility to dislodge the usurpers in power.

This current regime was NOT voted in by the real desires of the actual honest citizenry of this nation.

At the very least - even if every instance of 'election mechanization was perfect - the past two election cycles have been conducted with a nationwide propaganda-devoted 'journalism' cabal controlling the national 'narrative'

EVERYTHING bad that has happened is a direct result of KNOWN and DELIBERATE lies which were drilled into the consciousness of an apathetic or mal-informed electorate.

Not one word of truth has escaped the DEMOCRAT propaganda machine in the past 30 years.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24252 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 5:32 am to
So, just help me out here. Are you saying it is time for a new American Revolution?

If yes, can you tell me what you’re ready to revolt for? What does this new country look like?
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 5:40 am to
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Ancestry.com


Research material for the FBI. They also use 23andMe.

It's a good way to tie a bunch together.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 5:47 am to
The toughest part is the landscape is so different. I genuinely do not want portions of this country to be a part of what is created after the next revolution. We need smaller nation states with more local power and no conglomerate of assholes in one location above all. Fatal flaw of our republic.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
3782 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 5:47 am to
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This ^^^ is the birth of a nation.


No, that was the birth of one specific nation at one specific moment in time.

Who fought at a time when cannons and muskets and bayonets were the weapons of war and they were fighting an army whose home base was across the Atlantic during a period of time when it took four months for a British officer in America to send and receive a dispatch from Mother England.

If your 30% insurrectionists included a majority of current military and law enforcement, we might could reasonably conceive of something like what you're suggesting, but not really.

We're far too comfortable for a revolution.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 5:49 am to
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We need smaller nation states with more local power


Sounds a lot like the original 13 states before westward expansion. The original inception by the founders was well balanced.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 9/9/23 at 5:55 am to
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are a minority of Americans going to allow the corrupt and compromised ruling elites and apathetic/pathetic Americans to destroy what so many have fought, bled and died for?

Hell no! We meeting on Capital Hill?
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10284 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 6:00 am to
Bass, we may quite likely be related
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42563 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 6:47 am to
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My father’s side of the family came over from Scotland

Same here - from Invernate, settled in Richmond approx.1760's

Raised a bunch of revolutionaries

Got several indigenous amerinds in my line also, one Jamestown notable.

--> good bloodline. (insurrectionists??) plus (whur my reparations!!!)
Posted by Irish Knuckles
Nuwallins
Member since Jan 2015
686 posts
Posted on 9/9/23 at 7:17 am to
checks out with the 25% that shoulder everything.
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