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re: Jury rules against dad trying to save his 7-year-old from gender ‘transition’
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:52 pm to RebelExpress38
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:52 pm to RebelExpress38
Mother
Judge
White, straight dad didn't have a chance....
Judge
White, straight dad didn't have a chance....
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:54 pm to Dead End
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leftist
It does seem to be singular.
The vast majority are apparently smart enough to realize when they need to sit one out.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:54 pm to AggieHank86
quote:I didn't say jack shite about the parents here.
I have said repeatedly that I FAVOR the court stepping in when there is a disagreement between two parents
It's child abuse.
The courts should stop child abuse. Hell. I don't care if the parents AGREE on committing the child abuse.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:54 pm to Dead End
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Are leftist actually defending castrating a 7 year old child?
No
Although we are getting a very strange roundabout justification for why the legal system coming to this decision is OK.
ETA: a downvote for accuracy. Politards gonna politard.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:54 pm to AggieHank86
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A parent should have the right to make the decision as to whether their child is just fine with crooked teeth or whether the parent will put the child in braces.
It's amazing that you think this is the same as deciding if their child should undergo hormone therapy.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:55 pm to DeusVultMachina
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We are all just emotional and hyperbolic
And apparently completely stupid for thinking getting braces isn't the same as insane hormone therapy.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:55 pm to DeusVultMachina
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We are all just emotional and hyperbolic
Don’t forget irrational.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:55 pm to Flats
quote:Exactly
Uhm, we already have this; we're just discussing where to draw the line. You want it drawn at clitorectomies,
Hank already folded on that one and let's be blunt here. There's ONLY one reason he did.
Because clitorectormies are considered bad by the left and are a "women's issue"
In EVERY other way, chemically castrating a 7 year old ex EXPONENTIALLY worse.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:56 pm to ShortyRob
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The courts should stop child abuse. Hell. I don't care if the parents AGREE on committing the child abuse.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:56 pm to Dead End
Hank is championing the child abuse angle for the greater good...
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:57 pm to imjustafatkid
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It's amazing that you think this is the same as deciding if their child should undergo hormone therapy.
Again, it’s classic two-dimensional thinking.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:57 pm to SSpaniel
quote:find some language which lies somewhere between “bad decision“ and “blatant child abuse,“ and I may well agree to it.
But this is far beyond "bad decision" territory that it's not even funny. It's not just a "bad decision." Surely you can agree to that. And I certainly don't think it's being hyperbolic to call it more than a bad decision. I mean, C'mon, Hank. I really thought you were smarter than this.
The majority on this thread see child abuse. I simply do not.
I see a woman who probably genuinely believes that she is making the right decision for her child. I disagree with her, but I am not going to call her a child abuser for holding a view different than my own.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:58 pm to Hangover Haven
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White, straight dad didn't have a chance....
Bruh, they got a clinical diagnosis from Dallas Rainbow Counseling.
Rainbow.
Honk honk.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:00 pm to imjustafatkid
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The courts should stop child abuse. Hell. I don't care if the parents AGREE on committing the child abuse.
I just wanted to repeat that
Because bottom line is simple
We already task the state with stopping child abuse. So, the whole "state involvement" thing is a ship that has sailed and for good reason.
If the courts are too inept to determine that chemically castrating a 7 year old is child abuse, then you let teh courts know legislatively that it is.
And, even on THAT front, this wouldn't exactly be earth shattering precedent. We define, in LEGAL TERMS, what is and isn't a crime for the courts all the time.
In fact, there are literally thousands upon thousands of laws doing just this.
Judge doesn't think the speed limit should be 65? Oh well. It is.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:01 pm to AggieHank86
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, but I am not going to call her a child abuser for holding a view different than my own.
NAMBLA agrees.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:01 pm to AggieHank86
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The majority on this thread see child abuse. I simply do not.
Good.
We already knew the liberal position on the subject.
Hence. I'm find with it. Let's go public.
The left can take the position that chemical castration is just a parental decision.......the right can go the other way...........no more hiding. ALL Democrats need to go ahead and go public on it.
I'm fine with that politically.
let the arse kicking commence
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:02 pm to AggieHank86
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I see a woman who probably genuinely believes that she is making the right decision for her child.
Then perhaps SHE needs to be evaluated.
Because by every norm we hold as a society, this is utterly insane.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:02 pm to ShortyRob
quote:go target shooting this weekend. There are plenty of people in the population who think that’s a bad idea.
What other things can I and my 6 year old child "choose" to do together that us "limited government" folks should be cautious to avoid stopping?
Spend all day Saturday gorging on ice cream and hot dogs. There are plenty of people who think that’s a bad idea as well.
Hell, go parachuting. I would not be surprised if there are millions of people who think that it would be a bad idea to do that with a small child. But you are a parent. You get to make that decision. Not the state.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:03 pm to AggieHank86
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I disagree with her, but I am not going to call her a child abuser for holding a view different than my own.
Cool
I asked earlier. Perhaps you missed it
Is there anything that I could groom my 4-7 year old to believe is a great idea that you WOULD consider child abuse?
If so, explain how it would be different. Oh. And be careful. "While scant", there is literature out there supporting about any damned thing you can think of.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 2:04 pm to Godfather1
quote:Witness credibility is important in these cases. I was not present to see the witnesses or hear the testimony, so I cannot judge credibility.
Is what this mother is perpetrating upon her child abuse? Or not?
If I had been able to do so, my opinion might be different.
But from what I have seen in the media, my answer would be no.
I think this was probably just a woman who thinks she is doing the right thing for her child, despite the fact that I disagree with her.
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