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Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:36 pm to AggieHank86
What other things can I and my 6 year old child "choose" to do together that us "limited government" folks should be cautious to avoid stopping?
Ya know. Just for clarity.
And, when you think of a few things you think I should not be able to groom my 6 year old to want.............tell me why it's different than this.
Ya know. Just for clarity.
And, when you think of a few things you think I should not be able to groom my 6 year old to want.............tell me why it's different than this.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:36 pm to AggieHank86
I’m just going to come on out and ask you, Hank. Don’t dodge the question.
Is what this mother is perpetrating upon her child abuse? Or not?
If not, kindly explain how it isn’t.
Is what this mother is perpetrating upon her child abuse? Or not?
If not, kindly explain how it isn’t.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:37 pm to Godfather1
quote:Well, ya see man. It's not child abuse because she's not nefarious man. She doesn't mean it to be child abuse. You're just being too emotional man. Hank is much more chill than you.
Is what this mother is perpetrating upon her child abuse? Or not?
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:39 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
It's not child abuse because she's not nefarious man.
It's not such a great leap to speculate that hurting the father is at least part of her motivation. That speculation fits the facts well enough but it's really not provable.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:39 pm to ShortyRob
quote:You do not seem to even realize that you are arguing something that I have not even presented.
you KNOW as well as everyone else in here that I was right when I said good old dad wins this one going away if the issue was:
1)Child is the girl and mom thinks she's fat so is getting lipo
2)Child is a girl and mom thinks she needs boobs
3)mom and 7 year old wants tattoo
Yes, if there is no statewide statutory prohibition against those actions, more often than not the parent seeking to prevent them would prevail. Allowing that sort of case by case response to two parents in disagreement, as opposed to a state wide statutory ban, is more “limited government” than the statutory route.
You simply do not like the response from THIS judge and THIS jury.
Obviously, THEY saw and heard the evidence and reached the conclusion that, in THIS case, commencement of medical transition was a reasonable approach. From what I have seen, I disagree, as does the mob. But we did not see or hear the evidence. Even if I had seen and heard the evidence and continued to disagree with the judge and jury, I would STILL be willing to accept the occasional bad result before advocating additional statewide governmental interference in parental decision-making.
Again, the occasional bad decision is the price we pay for keeping governement out of my parenting decisions ... and yours.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:40 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
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This is exactly why I have an AR-15
For the day the government tells me I can’t stop my 7 year old son from chemically castrating himself
I think I would just off the mom.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:44 pm to DeusVultMachina
quote:One begins to wonder whether you read and understand standard American English, as I have been discussing that for 15 pages now.
Hey captain 17yo high school girl liposuction, how about address forced chemical castration of a 6 (now 7) year old boy.
1. I think it is a bad decision by the mother.
2. The scientific literature seems to indicate that the mother is wrong in this instance.
3. The father had his opportunity to convince both the judge and a jury of his peers that the mother was making a bad decision. He failed to do so. I also disagree with the jury’s decision.
4. Despite the fact that I feel this was a bad result, I am willing to except it as a cost of avoiding a statewide governmental regimen of interference in parental decision-making.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:44 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Yes, if there is no statewide statutory prohibition against those actions, more often than not the parent seeking to prevent them would prevail
I know
quote:I know
Allowing that sort of case by case response to two parents in disagreement, as opposed to a state wide statutory ban, is more “limited government” than the statutory route.
quote:Juries aren't always right.
You simply do not like the response from THIS judge and THIS jury.
quote:Which means they're idiots of the highest order.
commencement of medical transition was a reasonable approach
And again, bottom line is. YOU KNOW WHY it worked for this case but would not work for pretty much any of the similar examples. THE LEFT is why.
And that's why you're in this thread.
As to whether or not there should be law. Of course there shouldn't always be laws. Alas, since the left has chosen to go this route, this is one where it should exist. ESPECIALLY since the damage being done is egregious.
But. Like I said. I'm good with the left fighting the right on this. Let every Democrat alive oppose legislation to prevent chemical castration of pre-pubescent kids.
Please. Let them do this.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:46 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
4. Despite the fact that I feel this was a bad result, I am willing to except it as a cost of avoiding a statewide governmental regimen of interference in parental decision-making.
We literally have an entire department in every state in the union that exists in large part, to do exactly this.
Child protective services.
Frankly, that dad had to sue at all indicates how fricked the left has brought us
If dad had called CPS and told them mom was gonna get her 7 year old girl a boob job, dad's work would have been done.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:47 pm to ShortyRob
quote:and you are insistent upon categorizing this particular behavior as “child abuse,“ when there exists some medical literature (albeit scant) that this action by the mother is justified. apparently, that evidence was adequate to convince not only a Family Court judge, but also 11 of 12 jurors.
You're trying to stand on the limited government angle when basically NO ONE supports allowing child abuse in the name of "limited government".
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:47 pm to AggieHank86
quote:It's child abuse. You can admit it. It won't kill you
1. I think it is a bad decision by the mother.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:48 pm to AggieHank86
quote:Because it is
and you are insistent upon categorizing this particular behavior as “child abuse,“
quote:Link
when there exists some medical literature (albeit scant) that this action by the mother is justified.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:48 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
One begins to wonder whether you read and understand standard American English
I thought you weren't emotional.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:48 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
It's child abuse. You can admit it. It won't kill you
It’d sure kill his entire premise though.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:49 pm to ShortyRob
quote:You are completely delusional, aren’t you?
If I support the courts stepping in when child abuse is occurring, this means I need to change my 2nd Amendment views.
I have said repeatedly that I FAVOR the court stepping in when there is a disagreement between two parents. This is a far better solution than a statewide regulatory regimen.
In this case, the judge and the jury reached a decision which went with which I am not in agreement. I am willing to accept that sometimes this will happen, it being the lesser of two evils.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:49 pm to ShortyRob
I don't have time to read 22 pages.
Are leftist actually defending castrating a 7 year old child?
Are leftist actually defending castrating a 7 year old child?
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:49 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Despite the fact that I feel this was a bad result, I am willing to except it as a cost of avoiding a statewide governmental regimen of interference in parental decision-making.
Uhm, we already have this; we're just discussing where to draw the line. You want it drawn at clitorectomies, the rest of us would like it drawn at chemically castrating a 7 year old and possibly well before then.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:50 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
and you are insistent upon categorizing this particular behavior as “child abuse,“ when there exists some medical literature (albeit scant) that this action by the mother is justified.
:smdh:
Shakespeare was right, re: lawyers.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 1:51 pm to Dead End
quote:
Are leftist actually defending castrating a 7 year old child?
Yes, hank is.
50 posters are telling him he is fricking sick.
We are all just emotional and hyperbolic
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