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re: Jury Deliberation Day 2: Rekieta Law live now
Posted on 11/17/21 at 7:29 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Posted on 11/17/21 at 7:29 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Sure, jury is deadlocked….now what?
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 7:34 pm to TDTOM
quote:
Sure, jury is deadlocked….now what?
Do you think the Bucs have a good chance at winning the Super Bowl this season?
Posted on 11/17/21 at 7:36 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Don't watch the NFL, next.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 7:36 pm to Oddibe
quote:I don't think he can issue a "not guilty" verdict. I think there was some potential for a dismissed case, but he would much prefer for a jury verdict.quote:
Rittenhouse is either acquitted, or the Judge throws out a guilty verdict. In his mind, the case has been made, and he has no doubt.
He's simply hoping at this point that the jury will do their job.
What about in the case of a hung jury?
If he rules a mistrial, there's a good (<99%) chance the case is retried.
I think he is sitting on the option of ruling Judgement Notwithstanding the Verdict, in the event of a Guilty verdict. I also think he is strongly considering charges of Prosecutorial Misconduct.
I think he wants the jury to come back with the only reasonable verdict (not guilty, by overwhelming lack of evidence), so that Rittenhouse is then free and clear of double jeopardy.
If we see an acquittal, we also might see just a tongue-lashing by the judge. If we see anything else, we're probably seeing formal actions taken against both Binger and Krause.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 7:48 pm to BeefDawg
quote:The one thing I saw posted was bullshite. Is that what you're talking about?
Folks in Kenosha are reporting pallets of bricks are dropped all over town.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 7:50 pm to blueboy
If this were actually a free country, anything short of a unanimous jury verdict would be an acquittal. The state should not get another bite at the apple, especially if 10 of the 12 vote to acquit.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 7:52 pm to TDTOM
quote:Either a mistrial with or without prejudice. With and Kyle goes free. Without and they do this over again, with the same prosecutors. In such a case, however, the prosecution can't do anything new. The defense, who has seen their whole case, can alter their approach as they see fit.
Sure, jury is deadlocked….now what?
If it's without, Kyle might get new lawyers, ones with experience in retrials.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 7:57 pm to blueboy
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however, the prosecution can't do anything new.
Are you sure? Reckieta crew said today they can call new witnesses.
This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 11/17/21 at 7:59 pm to Scoob
quote:
Judgement Notwithstanding the Verdict,
This is a civil procedure that I can't find in the criminal section of Wisconsin code.
Do you have a link to the criminal procedure in Wisconsin statute that allows the judge to change a guilty verdict of a jury?
Posted on 11/17/21 at 8:01 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
This is a civil procedure that I can't find in the criminal section of Wisconsin code.
Do you have a link to the criminal procedure in Wisconsin statute that allows the judge to change a guilty verdict of a jury?
It doesn't matter. He is not doing that. He will accept the verdict or call a mistrial.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 8:08 pm to idlewatcher
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 8:15 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
Do you have a link to the criminal procedure in Wisconsin statute that allows the judge to change a guilty verdict of a jury?
Yes.
But it will never happen. Especially with this judge.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 8:16 pm to blueboy
quote:Here’s a clip of the police scanner in Kenosha today.
The one thing I saw posted was bullshite. Is that what you're talking about?
Cops report finding bricks and dispatch notifies of at least 3 other reported locations.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 8:21 pm to Stonehog
quote:She was wearing a short skirt. Clearly she wanted it.
But he’s an idiot for putting himself in that situation.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 8:23 pm to Stonehog
quote:Now do the rioters.
But he’s an idiot for putting himself in that situation.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 8:24 pm to sms151t
quote:Someone like Stonehog is on the jury.
Why is this jury still in deliberations?
Posted on 11/17/21 at 8:25 pm to Stonehog
quote:Even easier not to cause one.
Pretty easy to avoid a riot.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 8:27 pm to Taxing Authority
Should jury deliberation audio be available to the public? To me that would make for great listening.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 8:27 pm to Stonehog
quote:If you aren't free to execise your rights, you live in a ishthole. But keep defending that ishthole. You'll fit right in.
Still not getting it. Kyle had every right to walk down the street with a rifle, that doesn’t make it wise.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 8:29 pm to Stonehog
quote:
Still not getting it. Kyle had every right to walk down the street with a rifle, that doesn’t make it wise.
I don’t know that I’d use wise, I just think that you have to understand what could potentially happen to you by being there. There’s a lot of potential for stuff to go sideways (which it did for Kyle) and every word, movement, action is going to be scrutinized with a fine toothed comb. With that said, hats off to Kyle, he has more stones than most men.
It’s absolutely unfortunate that he could get railroaded in which is a pretty clear cut self defense case IMO.
Another question is why did they do all the cases at once instead of doing trial for each person that was shot?
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