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re: Judge Sullivan defies court order to respond himself, hires lawyer to explain decision

Posted on 5/23/20 at 5:57 pm to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56466 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 5:57 pm to
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I'd bet they're threatening Sullivan's son


No. Sullivan is a bad actor. It's dumb to make up reasons that would turn him into a victim.

He knows he's already stepped out of line. Now he's trying to shield himself.

This is an admission of guilt.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95311 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 6:00 pm to
How much longer does this farce go on? Any chance the appellate court issues a default judgment for Flynn yet holds this idiot over for more?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

No. Sullivan is a bad actor. It's dumb to make up reasons that would turn him into a victim.

He knows he's already stepped out of line. Now he's trying to shield himself.

This is an admission of guilt.



There was speculation that Judge Sullivan would go ahead and dismiss the case before the DC circuits deadline and render the Mandamus petition moot to avoid getting embarrassed.

Sullivan hiring the lawyer tells us that Sullivan is all in, he's doubling down and he's daring the DC circuit to grant Mandamus and dismiss the case themselves.
This post was edited on 5/23/20 at 6:04 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19213 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 6:05 pm to
Can they force Sullivan to dismiss it?
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48900 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 6:10 pm to
Rumblings are shite is going to come out that will implicate him being criminally culpable with the malicious prosecution and Flynn's own original lawyers. Maybe even written communications between all three.......this is just what I'm hearing this is why he is retaining counsel
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38262 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 6:10 pm to
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If we allow judges to hire lawyers to represent themselves to judges that outrank them to argue over litigation where both parties have come to an agreement to dismiss the case, we will be opening up a can of worms.


I thought the Writ of Mandamus was a time thing. Isn’t the reason for it because the one who filed it is seeking relief for a statutory matter? In Flynn’s case- dropping the fricking case?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 6:14 pm to
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Can they force Sullivan to dismiss it?



That's what the Writ of Mandamus is.

It's an order to compel someone in legal proceedings to perform a task whether they be the judge, prosecutor or defendant.

It's a high bar to reach to be granted. But it gets easier when it concerns a ministerial task like dismissing the case when both parties come to agreement and the judge as a neutral arbiter has no further role to play.

One way or the other, the case against Flynn will be dismissed.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56466 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 6:15 pm to
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I have a feeling we are just getting started on unusual shite.



yeah. I've always laughed at the notion of military tribunals and shite like that.

But, if the judiciary is so corrupt that it won't do its job, and the left is hell bent on dying on these hills, everything needs to be on the table.

Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48900 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 6:16 pm to
Sullivan was in on it, he may be indicted/arrested
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53273 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 6:16 pm to
I figured it had to be something like that. To which you would think he'd do the normal thing and drop the case as the parties wish. Perhaps Barry and Co have dirt and pressured him into not issuing the dismissal.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64322 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 6:17 pm to
The only way a military court could expand is via a coup.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 6:17 pm to
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I thought the Writ of Mandamus was a time thing. Isn’t the reason for it because the one who filed it is seeking relief for a statutory matter? In Flynn’s case- dropping the fricking case?


When both parties in litigation come to an agreement, the judge as a netural arbiter has no further role to play and dismissing the case becomes a ministerial task for the judge and one he must perform and he does not have an option to refuse or delay dismissing the case.

Litigation in a court of law is about a dispute between two parties. When they both come to an agreement, the case is over.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48900 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 6:18 pm to
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figured it had to be something like that. To which you would think he'd do the normal thing and drop the case as the parties wish. Perhaps Barry and Co have dirt and pressured him into not issuing the dismissal.


Once the dismissal is final everything starts dropping, he's just delaying the inevitable
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38262 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 6:22 pm to
Then, the courts whether DC or Appeals owe Flynn his relief. And they owe it immediately. Sullivan and his lawyer can frick right off.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
62 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 6:23 pm to
Beth and I were in the same class at UVa Law.

Another tidbit: she was 2nd Chair for the USA in prosecuting Timothy McVeigh.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
62 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 6:23 pm to
Beth and I were in the same class at UVa Law.

Another tidbit: she was 2nd Chair for the USA in prosecuting Timothy McVeigh.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98930 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 6:28 pm to
Did you both take the class twice?
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
7796 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 6:29 pm to
I’m willing to hire my own lawyer just to understand the shite show.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95311 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 6:29 pm to
Fun issue to hold over the House this cycle.

A judge gets caught fixing a case against a political opponent with the cooperation of the DOJ and the defendant’s own counsel.

Sounds like a perfect recipe for an impeachment and removal. Alcee Hastings was at least taking bribes, not putting own show trials.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16209 posts
Posted on 5/23/20 at 6:31 pm to
I fully expect Flynn's son to be charged with some bullshite very soon.
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