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Judge in Trumps doc case points out selective prosecution

Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:21 pm
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:21 pm
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NEW: From FLA courthouse in Trump's classified documents case with a prediction. Robert Hur report and testimony is the biggest elephant in the room. The term "arbitrary enforcement" used frequently by both the defense and Judge Aileen Cannon. Cannon hammered the fact no former president or vice president has been charged under Espionage Act for taking and keeping classified records including national defense information--which represents 32 counts against Trump in Jack Smith's indictment. Prediction: Cannon won't dismiss the case based on the motions debated today--vagueness of Espionage Act and protection under the Presidential Records Act. But it's very likely she will dismiss the case based on selective prosecution, a motion still pending before her

Cannon pressed both defense and Special Counsel to explain when the "crime" of willful retention of national defense information begins--she noted the date in Jack Smith's indictment as to when Trump first violated the Espionage Act.

January 20, 2021, the day he left office

Jay Bratt, representing special counsel office, confirmed the "crime" began that day because as a former president, he was entitled to retain the documents.

Cannon again asked for historical precedent as to when a former president or vice president faced charges for similar conduct. Bratt of course said there is none.

She added "vice president" on numerous occasions for a reason--Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and Mike Pence all skated on criminal charges. Trump is the only one who has not.

Cannon: "Arbitrary enforcement...is featuring in this case."

Cannon also addressed the "foreseeability" as to Trump's awareness he was committing a crime by keeping classified/national defense information.

Also of interest: Jay Bratt claiming there is no official process for a president to obtain or keep a security clearance. His argument is Trump's clearance automatically expired at the end of this term--which contradicts how former government officials maintained clearances long after their service ended.

Trump's elimination of John Brennan's clearance was raised.

But there is a problem. The Dept. of Energy, learning of Smith's indictment against Trump in the summer of 2023, retroactively revoked Trump's "Q" security clearance.

Bratt says the government has emails and a draft memo to revoke Trump's clearance.

Cannon's counterargument is--but if there is no formal process for authorizing or removing a president's security clearance--why did DOE need to memorialize it post-indictment.

Bratt didn't really have an answer.

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This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 2:23 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:24 pm to
Here's the link:

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This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 2:26 pm
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:26 pm to
atta girl!
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36013 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:30 pm to
The next step in the left's quest to "save democracy" will be to have judges arrested who question the government's narrative.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:33 pm to
That's in the works, no doubt.
Posted by lsufan1971
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 2:36 pm to


All these cases being filed and, best we can tell, the only ones which made it through are the financial one which got a default judgment and the defamation of the crazy bitch because he called her a liar.


The election interference and document cases appear to either be dead or severely crippled.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29990 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

Cannon won't dismiss the case based on the motions debated today--vagueness of Espionage Act and protection under the Presidential Records Act. But it's very likely she will dismiss the case based on selective prosecution, a motion still pending before her


and that is their out, they can now say see, even the judge said he was guilty, but he refused to hold him accountable for it because he was a trump judge

they get their talking point, and can move on to more lawfare against trump based on the lie the judge in this case said trump was guilty
Posted by TigerB8
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:05 pm to
Because of Florida being a common sense state, the Marxists figured they'd lose out where the court case is run by the books. This is why jack smith also filed one in DC, where they know they can get the "home cooking".
Posted by The Hispanic Titanic
Phoenix, Arizona
Member since Sep 2022
189 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:07 pm to
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Cannon: "Arbitrary enforcement...is featuring in this case."


Not a good sign for the prosecution.

Holy shite the melt if this case is thrown out will be epic.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95203 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

they get their talking point, and can move on to more lawfare against trump based on the lie the judge in this case said trump was guilty


And the counter is “Biden did far worse and they refused to charge him.”


They may claim a victory if it gets dismissed over this but it isn’t the “guilty” verdict they desperately want on the front pages.
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8090 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:31 pm to
I can see the headlines:

"Trump Top Secret Document Case Dismissed Due to Executive Privilege, Biden Not Charged For Theft of Top Secret Documents Due To Mental Issues!"
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:31 pm to
Biden better watch it. They'll torch him to get Trump.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95203 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:32 pm to
If they were going to torch Biden, they would have done it already.

They are stuck with him unless he dies.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68529 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:34 pm to
Dont worry, the usual suspects wont show up and just circle jerk in the trump hating threads.


bro, im totally not a democrat bro.

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73492 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:35 pm to
The law offices of Boosie, GeneFunBunch, SlowFlow and Cwill all look like fools again
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29990 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

They may claim a victory if it gets dismissed over this but it isn’t the “guilty” verdict they desperately want on the front pages.



that doesnt really matter, the MSM will only parrot their narrative, so the truth matters very little to what the uninformed will be aware of it.

they will tell the idiots the judge said trump was guilty but he refused to charge him because he is a trump judge, and then that will be the only thing repeated non stop until november
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 4:47 pm
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
8567 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

The law offices of Boosie, GeneFunBunch, SlowFlow and Cwill all look like fools again


But we do appreciate their input as fodder.
Posted by Wednesday
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:01 pm to
MAGA girls are the best girls
Posted by angryslugs
Member since Apr 2008
10191 posts
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

Trump's "Q" security clearance.


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