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re: Judge Beryl Howell goes all in blocks another Trump EO - Perkins Coie
Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:54 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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Clearly the goals were to be negative towards Trump, but there is a huge chasm between that and "overthrowing" Trump.
No, the goal was absolutely to overthrow Trump. There was a chasm between what they wanted and what they got, but the goal was crystal clear.
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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What was the purpose of Russia-Gate?
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I don't know. I wasn't part of the DOJ.
Okay, you’re really struggling now.
I actually enjoy (sometimes) your contrarianism but I expect better than that above.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:55 am to LuckyTiger
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I’m asking you to tell what you think Perkins Cole did regarding this.
Their role was done when the DOJ acted.
I don't think any evidence has been shown that they had any involvement at the point where the DOJ engaged in the illegality.
This post was edited on 5/3/25 at 9:56 am
Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:56 am to SlowFlowPro
I agree with with most of what you said however the president has the final say about security clearances and classified documents and that is acting within the confines of his power. This is about Trump revoking their security clearance and the court said no. If that's the case then the courts could theoretically make Trump assign security clearances to whom ever they wish as well . Way way overstepping there boundaries.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:56 am to LuckyTiger
It's why he is avoiding the temporary nature of security clearances. 
Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:56 am to Flats
Exactly. They would have thrown him in prison if they could have. Just like they tried before this election.
And he still ignores it:
Section 1. Purpose. The dishonest and dangerous activity of the law firm Perkins Coie LLP (“Perkins Coie”) has affected this country for decades. Notably, in 2016 while representing failed Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, Perkins Coie hired Fusion GPS, which then manufactured a false “dossier” designed to steal an election. This egregious activity is part of a pattern. Perkins Coie has worked with activist donors including George Soros to judicially overturn popular, necessary, and democratically enacted election laws, including those requiring voter identification. In one such case, a court was forced to sanction Perkins Coie attorneys for an unethical lack of candor before the court.
It's like the 4th time posted and he is still arguing that their view point is the issue.
And he still ignores it:
Section 1. Purpose. The dishonest and dangerous activity of the law firm Perkins Coie LLP (“Perkins Coie”) has affected this country for decades. Notably, in 2016 while representing failed Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, Perkins Coie hired Fusion GPS, which then manufactured a false “dossier” designed to steal an election. This egregious activity is part of a pattern. Perkins Coie has worked with activist donors including George Soros to judicially overturn popular, necessary, and democratically enacted election laws, including those requiring voter identification. In one such case, a court was forced to sanction Perkins Coie attorneys for an unethical lack of candor before the court.
It's like the 4th time posted and he is still arguing that their view point is the issue.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:56 am to BCreed1
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Is English your second language?
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There it is. When presented with facts, it's "I called it" "They pivoted
Is English your second language?
Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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Clearly the goals were to be negative towards Trump
Clearly, but a lot of effort was put into this.
You don't climb a mountain to retrieve a dollar bill.
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but there is a huge chasm between that and "overthrowing" Trump.
What about interfering with his 2020 run?
Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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your assertion that Russia-gate led to attempts to remove him. You still haven't posted any evidence or actions supporting this claim.
Damn.
More competition for my new sig quote.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:58 am to Flats
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the goal was absolutely to overthrow Trump. There was a chasm between what they wanted and what they got, but the goal was crystal clear.
Again, I don't think we have any evidence for this
IIRC, even the Page-Strozk texts show it was to thwart and hurt him politically
I don't believe there's any indication of overthrowing him. Neutering him? Yes
Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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Is English your second language?
Now he's moving into the attack phase because he can not and will not address the concern. He demands it be about what he wants it to be about.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:58 am to Jbird
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It's why he is avoiding the temporary nature of security clearances.
I'm not avoiding anything. That's irrelevant
Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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I don't think any evidence has been shown that they had any involvement at the point where the DOJ engaged in the illegality.
You’re saying the DOJ engaged in illegality?
What illegality are you saying they engaged in?
Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:59 am to LuckyTiger
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Okay, you’re really struggling now.
I gave an interpretive response after what you quoted. Why did you leave that out? Why do you keep actively engaging in dishonesty?
Posted on 5/3/25 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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'm not avoiding anything. That's irrelevant
It is not. Only because you demand this to be about viewpoint, and it is not.
Section 1. Purpose. The dishonest and dangerous activity of the law firm Perkins Coie LLP (“Perkins Coie”) has affected this country for decades. Notably, in 2016 while representing failed Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, Perkins Coie hired Fusion GPS, which then manufactured a false “dossier” designed to steal an election. This egregious activity is part of a pattern. Perkins Coie has worked with activist donors including George Soros to judicially overturn popular, necessary, and democratically enacted election laws, including those requiring voter identification. In one such case, a court was forced to sanction Perkins Coie attorneys for an unethical lack of candor before the court.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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I'm not avoiding anything. That's irrelevant
Posted on 5/3/25 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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Again, I don't think we have any evidence for this
"We" don't define evidence, individuals do. IMO there's more than enough evidence to reach the conclusion that they were trying to get him out of office. In your opinion there isn't.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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Neutering him? Yes
I don't see how this wouldn't be grounds for security clearance removal.
The people elected Trump. You don't like that. So you spread lies in an attempt to limit his political power.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 10:01 am to BCreed1
Perkins guys also knew the dossier was bullshite.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 10:03 am to LuckyTiger
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You’re saying the DOJ engaged in illegality?
What illegality are you saying they engaged in?
We know for a fact, at a minimum, what Clinesmith did.
As I said, if you want to revoke security clearances for illegality from Russiagate, remove the DOJ's.
DOJ =/= Perkins Coie
Clinesmith was not an employee of PC, nor were any of the DOJ lawyers who participated in the...exaggerations in the affidavits (we'll be euphemistic).
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