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re: Judge Amy Berman Jackson Rules the Bureaucracy Controls the Executive Branch, Not POTUS
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:22 am to Branson
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:22 am to Branson
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The EPA was writing and rewriting laws to suit their agenda.
If they have unlimited authority, who cares?
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Even tho they fall under the executive, the constitution clearly states who has the power to pass laws.
So explain to me the relationship between Congress and executive authority.
It sounds like you believe Congress can limit executive authority in the statutes ceding power to the executive.
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A better example would be why wouldn't the president appoint his own judges? He can't because it is not in his power to do so. He can nominate who he wants but it has to go thru Congress.
A power/scheme clearly laid out in the Constitution.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:23 am to Branson
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The EPA was writing and rewriting laws to suit their agenda.
The only real solution is for Congress to tighten up the language regarding these agency mandates and build approval/teeth into what happens if an agency attempts to go outside of specific mandate.
The can call it the Obama Restraint Act as he really fricked up everything and it needs to be unfricked.
Which get back to some of my posts regarding Congress getting busy now fixing this shite as EO’s aren’t a permanent solution.
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 10:25 am
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:24 am to SlowFlowPro
Who does the “independent” agency report to?
Are there independent agencies in the legislative or judicial branches?
What prevents a preceding president from appointing a nefarious “independent” person on his way out of office?
There are too many obvious constitutional issues with this.
Are there independent agencies in the legislative or judicial branches?
What prevents a preceding president from appointing a nefarious “independent” person on his way out of office?
There are too many obvious constitutional issues with this.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:25 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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It’s not a theory.
Then answer the question posed: why do we have so many agencies and Cabinet positions if all we need is one?
Hell, how is the APA Constitutional? That's a law from Congress mandating the process the Executive is bound to in order to enact new policies and regulations.
If the Executive doesn't follow the APA, the regulation enacted is illegal. How can Congress do that?
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How would it even be possible for a legislative body to dictate daily operations?
Nobody is talking about "daily operations". We're talking about the framework itself over those "daily operations".
I'm asking how the FDA can regulate Wall Street (it cannot).
You're asking how Congress could dictate the daily operations of the FDA regulating Wall Street, ignoring that the FDA has no statutory authority to do so in the first place.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:26 am to SquatchDawg
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The only real solution is for Congress to tighten up the language regarding these agency mandates
With a Unified Executive, this becomes irrelevant, as the simple formation of the agency gives the executive 100% authority thereafter.
The "the only solution is for Congress to tighten up the language" is the traditional/historical paradigm outside of the UET.
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Which get back to some of my posts regarding Congress getting busy now fixing this shite as EO’s aren’t a permanent solution.
With the UET, they are.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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If they have unlimited authority, who cares?
WTF?
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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why do we have so many agencies and Cabinet positions if all we need is one
quote:Like Fema doling out money to illegals?
statutory authority
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:27 am to GumboPot
Need to impeach these judges ASAP
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:32 am to SlowFlowPro
I think we are agreeing on the same thing. My beef is with the judicial branch and the "lawfare" that you do not believe exists. This is one of the 1000s of examples of it in action. This judge is an activist. She is trying to cede power from the executive branch by telling him who he can appoint or dismiss.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:34 am to Diego Ricardo
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Seems like terminating a watch dog for no reason before the end of the term set by congress for the appointment is unconstitutional to me.
Seems like you're retarded to me.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:35 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Who does the “independent” agency report to?
That's being highly specific, but it depends on the agency.
The Fed reports to no one, effectively.
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Are there independent agencies in the legislative or judicial branches?
The "legislative branch" is established by the Constitution and isn't bound by the acts of anyone else to create it (unlike an executive agency, which is only created by the legislature).
Now the judicial branch is different, as Congress is given the Constitutional authority to create lower courts other than the Supreme Court. These lower courts are similar to executive agencies as they are only in existence at the leisure of Congress.
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What prevents a preceding president from appointing a nefarious “independent” person on his way out of office?
For which position?
For one with a term, I already answered that. This would only be theoretically available if the term was over in that time period regardless.
For one without a term, he can, with Senate approval. That's based in the appointments clause clearly, which is why they all got replaced when Trump asian over.
I already said in this specific instance the appointments clause will likely take over this matter. You were arguing much more broadly, though.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:36 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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WTF?
Exactly my point about your theory.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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Then answer the question posed: why do we have so many agencies and Cabinet positions if all we need is one?
Manpower. A single person can only handle so much.
We do have more than we need.
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I'm asking how the FDA can regulate Wall Street (it cannot).
How can FEMA be involved in housing illegals?
How can the Department of Agriculture be involved in education?
I could give hundreds of examples of agencies and departments operating outside of their mandates.
And the FDA is already heavily involved in regulating Wall Street, and works with the SEC regularly.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:38 am to Jbird
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Area expertise?
But you could still have that with one Goliath agency under his theory.
That Goliath agency would just have one appointed executive over it and would be part of a single Cabinet position.
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Like Fema doling out money to illegals?
That's within the statutory authority, no matter how many times y'all reference it. What you're upset about is, ironically, the broad executory powers under that statutory authority.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:40 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Manpower. A single person can only handle so much.
Does this have any historical or jurisprudential backing?
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How can FEMA be involved in housing illegals?
It's within the statutory authority, no matter how many times y'all keep trying the gotcha.
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I could give hundreds of examples of agencies and departments operating outside of their mandates.
No you can't. You can find examples you may think are, but I'll bet the vague Congressional wording permits the Executive action. If not, there would be lawsuits.
If you ever look at the USSC's docket, it's filled with these sorts of cases. I imagine it would be the majority of cases they hear.
You forgot to answer this:
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Hell, how is the APA Constitutional? That's a law from Congress mandating the process the Executive is bound to in order to enact new policies and regulations.
If the Executive doesn't follow the APA, the regulation enacted is illegal. How can Congress do that?
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro
Operational authority and independence.
No department or agency can make laws, which would be a clear constitutional violation.
You are reaching too far for some “gotcha”
No one has claimed that the executive branch has the power to make laws.
But the executive has full power to direct his departments to do as he chooses.
No department or agency can make laws, which would be a clear constitutional violation.
You are reaching too far for some “gotcha”
No one has claimed that the executive branch has the power to make laws.
But the executive has full power to direct his departments to do as he chooses.
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 10:44 am
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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Manpower. A single person can only handle so much.
Does this have any historical or jurisprudential backing?
So Alabama only needs one coordinator not one for offense and one for defense.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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With the UET
Which I am not a fan of as this I’ll change every 4 years.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:48 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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No one has claimed that the executive branch has the power to make laws.
Only regulations, executive orders, and policy
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But the executive has full power to direct his departments to do as he chooses.
Again, explain how the APA can work, then.
Posted on 3/2/25 at 10:48 am to Branson
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I think we are agreeing on the same thing. My beef is with the judicial branch and the "lawfare" that you do not believe exists. This is one of the 1000s of examples of it in action. This judge is an activist. She is trying to cede power from the executive branch by telling him who he can appoint or dismiss.
What you call lawfare is just a country working as intended. Hell, the conservatives came up with some people with no genuine standing to have the student loan forgiveness from Biden axed. Arguably, even though I think the standing of the complainant was laughable that they were correct that Biden admin overstepped his executive authority.
This is how rule of law works. Unified Executive Theory is just an active constitutional monarchy given a sheep skin to wear.
This post was edited on 3/2/25 at 10:49 am
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