re: Jordan Peterson: conservative movement must move on from stolen election narrative

I disregard all of his observations because he begins from the premise that "Conservative" and "Liberal" still have meaning as political labels in 2021 USA.

He is unreliable.

One of the most blatant subversive attacks on our system of government, one of our most sacred institutions - and we should 'move on from it'? NEVER, for me.

Why should MAGAs move on?

The Steal is not a narrative; it actually happened.

TRUMP won. By a lot. Everyone knows it.

So whoever Jordan Peterson is can frick off.

There’s a sentiment, including in some Republican circles, for a return to Bush style Republicanism where Pubs basically turn the other cheek, stay out of the street brawl and generally “stay in our lane”.

It’s “ok” for us to debate policies and speak of values but we should primarily stay out of the way while the Dem/Progs stay in control driving this car (leading us over the cliff at 100 mph no less.).

I think a good majority of us had an epiphany some time ago and finally saw/realized where that type of Republican leadership has gotten us in the long run. There is little desire to see it return.

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Considering the accurate narrative of a stolen election has led to some audits that are exposing the truth and some law changes that attempt to hinder the democrats' cheating, then it cannot be considered counterproductive...unless you are a dumbass.

The irregularities shown in audits and investigations have proven that the narrative is in fact not incorrect. You would have to be extremely mentally deficient to look at all the evidence and think that this was a legitimate election.

The narrative can also be used to keep republicans focused and engaged. So, again, it would not be counterproductive. Conservatives so willing to drop the stolen election exposure are milquetoast, establishment losers that think "go along to get along" will somehow pay dividends despite losing ground for decades.

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The evidence that the mainstream media and big tech companies manipulated the narrative to attempt to get Biden elected is overwhelming. In that sense yes, the election was “fixed”. He who controls the narrative controls the vote in many ways. It’s also overwhelmingly clear that bullshite but technically legal methods were used in some states to effectively harvest ballots. And voter fraud has occurred on relatively small scales in every national election ever. I’m not disputing any of that.

There is however no evidence whatsoever that the election was literally rigged via ILLEGAL ballot harvesting, voting machine shenanigans, etc. No evidence exists that election fraud was committed on the scale necessary to flip the result. Every claim like this to date has either been debunked or remains unsubstantiated.