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Johnson to unwrap Ukraine bill. Ukraine and Israel bills may be voted on separately.

Posted on 4/7/24 at 6:13 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30637 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 6:13 pm
We are about to see some fireworks in the Dem party.

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WASHINGTON—Embattled House Speaker Mike Johnson (R., La.) has pledged to bring up Ukraine aid for a vote in the House soon after Congress returns from Easter recess in coming days. But what the bill will look like—and who will support it—remains unsettled due to fractures among Republicans and Democrats over both aid for Kyiv and related assistance for Israel.
The Senate passed a $95 billion package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan in February with bipartisan support. Johnson has resisted calls from defense hawks of both parties to simply bring the Senate bill up for a vote in the House, saying his chamber will move forward with its own bill that would add “some important innovations” not included in the Senate version.
In a tacit acknowledgment of the tricky political terrain, Johnson has said he was weighing splitting up Ukraine aid and Israel aid so that lawmakers can vote on each element separately. Doing so could maximize Democratic votes for Ukraine, which accounts for about $60 billion of the package, while allowing some Republicans to vote for Israel aid, even if they don’t support more money for Ukraine.
Johnson has also publicly floated a few policy proposals that could squeeze some more votes here and there: converting some Ukraine aid to a loan, confiscating seized Russian assets to fund Ukraine’s reconstruction and lifting the Biden administration’s moratorium on new liquefied natural gas export projects. But details are scarce. Even some GOP lawmakers who have been involved in discussions about the package say they haven’t seen the final text of the bill.
Meanwhile, a group of House Democrats sent a letter to Johnson saying the House aid package needed more humanitarian assistance to address urgent needs in Gaza as well as countries including Sudan and Haiti.


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This post was edited on 4/7/24 at 6:14 pm
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131378 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 6:19 pm to
bout fricking time.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14057 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 6:35 pm to
Single item 1 page bills need to fricking happen.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23709 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

converting some Ukraine aid to a loan, confiscating seized Russian assets to fund Ukraine’s reconstruction and lifting the Biden administration’s moratorium on new liquefied natural gas export projects.

All good.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45123 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 6:42 pm to
How about tell both to go to hell. If you are hell bent on helping about forcing Biden to fix the border? How about spending money on fixing social security? How about helping homeless Veterans? There are a million things to spend money on here.
Posted by Achilles Hill
Member since Mar 2024
233 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 6:46 pm to
Why are we funding anyone when we are $36 trillion in the hole?

We paid over a trillion dollars on interest alone.

Ukraine is a lost cause. Israel already gets $4 billion a year.

Inflation is killing the middle class. Enough already.
Posted by Achilles Hill
Member since Mar 2024
233 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 6:47 pm to
You think Ukraine is going to pay back a loan.

Just like our college students?

K
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13377 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 7:26 pm to
We have to agree to fund Ukraine in order to get our president to agree to STOP preventing the economy from improving with LNG projects.

What a fked up negotiation, we are screwed as a country when that looks like winning.

Sounds like the border deal where they will AGREE to cut illegals to a million a week if we pass more money for Ukraine.

The world laughs at the US.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27587 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 7:32 pm to
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aid for Kyiv and related assistance for Israel.


There is zero functional relation between Israeli and Ukrainian aid
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10393 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

You think Ukraine is going to pay back a loan.



Wasn't this Trump's idea?

And didn't he say if they couldn't pay it back, it wasn't an issue?
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
206 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 7:44 pm to
Russian military spending data:

LINK /
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15713 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 7:44 pm to
Gotta wonder if MTG’s threat had anything to do with this.
Posted by Da Sheik
Trump Tower
Member since Sep 2007
7938 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 8:28 pm to
Mr Johnson has felt the heat From his voters.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9164 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 8:57 pm to
I don't believe anything that traitorous uniparty fricktard says.

Maybe I'm wrong.... But I don't think so. He's no different from the rest, he'll say anything to keep his position and power.
This post was edited on 4/7/24 at 8:58 pm
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24805 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 8:58 pm to
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Single item 1 page bills need to fricking happen.

Would a Constitutional ratification be necessary to make this happen?

Genuinely curious. If so, it needs to happen.

These bullshite 5,000+ page bills that get presented to voted upon less than 24 hours later are garbage.
Posted by PhtevenWithaV
Member since Jul 2022
263 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:12 pm to
Good, I'm all for fighting communists but some (((people))) need to just frick off
This post was edited on 4/7/24 at 9:13 pm
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11127 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:16 pm to
We're getting 250k or more at the border each month. Johnson has been Speaker for about 6 months. Four months ago we got this: House Speaker Mike Johnson told fellow Republicans on Tuesday that sweeping changes to U.S. border policy would be their “hill to die on”...

This loser has let 1 million more people invade our nation and hasn't done a single thing for the border, but he caved on every single thing the Democrats and the Insurgent Class wanted.

This guy is a bitch. He has given everything away to other nations and turned his back on Americans.
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
12395 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:31 pm to
That's wacist baw!! Can't say or do that man.
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
1383 posts
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:37 pm to
Johnson is a RINO and will continue to bow down to his Democratic colleagues. He is a farce. Pure politician. Fake arse 'conservatives', just as Cassidy and Kennedey are.
This post was edited on 4/7/24 at 9:58 pm
Posted by Achilles Hill
Member since Mar 2024
233 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 3:15 am to
quote:

Wasn't this Trump's idea?


Trump had some pretty stupid ideas as well.

Great point.
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