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re: John Kennedy is now moving to put the SAVE America Act as RECONCILIATION, 51 votes to pass

Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
14166 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:49 pm to
It may be argued that an unsecured national election can have a disastrous effect on the nation’s budget and debt limit by electing a candidate with policies that are inherently or purposefully harmful to the US economy and security.
Posted by Hampton
Member since Oct 2020
2665 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:52 pm to
All they have to do is reword it to make it sound like a budget item to bypass the byrd act
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17966 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:53 pm to
Another reason we need to understand who the Parliamentarian is and how they get appointed.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:09 pm to
This is stupid- filibusters exist as a rule of the Senate and can be ended at any point with a simple majority of votes.

Why not just end the filibuster if it's that important?
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
16428 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:31 pm to
Now I see why the democrats are really upping the attack on Trump on X.. A lot of ((((BREAKING)))) going on...
Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5424 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 7:12 am to
My prediction - just another act in the main ring of the bread and circus, circus. "Sorry, we tried really hard". If they wanted elections that weren’t rigged, we would have elections that aren't rigged. They don't want to take a chance of being thrown off the grift train. Call me cynical, but I have seen this shite over and over and over. Whoever actually runs the world has a sense of humor, getting us to believe any of these people are worthy of their position or capable of making the decisions they pretend to make.


Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
6609 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 7:23 am to
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The GOPe, for some reason, is against the SAVE Act. I do not know why. The GOPe has never told us why.


Some are against it, and it’s not hard to determine they’ve been compromised.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16476 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 8:03 am to
It's about time he did something.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77921 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 8:04 am to
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Won't be long now before sfp comes and cries in his unique little full of shite manner.
This post was edited on 3/19/26 at 2:01 pm
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49535 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 8:16 am to
This is a true litmus test - you can decide who is a true American and who is a corrupt congress critter protecting his political arse on the basis of this.

There is ZERO valid argument in opposition to this simple necessity = the need to provide a SECURE electoral process that is not fatally vulnerable to the jackals of illegal mob rule.

Pick a side
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49535 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 8:39 am to
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Reconciliation, as far as I understand, can only be used on budget items and must not increase the deficit.

I just heard Kennedy's commentary on that - I got the opinion that the 'rule' is not couched specifically for budget items - but is reserved for things which are so critical that country cannot safely function without it

For example - if there is a closely divided senate as now, that one or two recalcitrant senators should not be able to single-handedly jeopardize the entire nation in favor of some of their pet project. Has been used to just continue the spending process approved by prior congress to allow the government to function while the debate over new spending is taking place.

BUT - the nation's future is more in danger by having crooked elections than it is by having to lay off a few hundred (thousand) federal employees.

SO - Holding the nation hostage for "just one more crooked election so we can instill another totally corrupt congressional leadership so we can change all the rules and never ever have to worry about these stupid elections in the first place" === is perhaps the MOST CRITICAL ISSUE for the continuation of our democratic REPUBLIC in our history.

IF we allow this NEXT MIDTERM rig all the elections with ILLEGAL ALIENs on the voter registration rolls, and not caring WHO shows up to "cast a ballot' then our nation will have been forever destroyed. There will be NO recovery from such a trajedy other than some other outside force deciding that THEY should come in and straignten the situation out - or, participate in the corruption.

the entire basis of our freedoms and liberty and hopes for the future are totally dependent on a FAIR ELECTION

Anyone opposing that proposition should be shunned and ignored and kicked to the curb.

Democrats have shown their hands on this one - they KNOW they are advocating for MAJOR THEFT of this mid-term election - they KNOW they are wrong but they ALSO know their future as a gimmee-gimmee-gimmee corrupt politician is over if they have to stand for a FAIR ELECTION.

They will = without even hesitating = commit the entire nation to hell just so THEY can live out the rest of THEIR miserable lives off the backs of the working public.

This, my friends, is actually our last chance - if we fail this test, we will never again have to even bother showing up to vote - the winner will already have been cast.

It is just that critical.

Our only other option would be to try out-cheating them - and they are the professionals at that game.
This post was edited on 3/19/26 at 8:45 am
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55327 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 8:45 am to
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Some are against it, and it’s not hard to determine they’ve been compromised.


Has any prominent GOP in Congress taken the time to explain in detail why some of the GOP won't pass it, and what amendments might change their minds to favor passing it?

I don't think anybody in Government has taken the time to explain this.

I'm leaning towards the conclusion that both major political parties are happy with the way things are now, and I have a sneaking suspicion a portion of the GOP would like the Dems to take Congress in order to Stop Trump, End Trump and End MAGA and frick ICE.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49535 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 8:50 am to
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explain in detail why some of the GOP won't pass it,


There MAY be one or two actual "fundamentalist" interpretation on the GOP side - Rand Paul is the one I suspect MAY be genuinely dedicated to the 'limited interpretation' of the rules = regardless of the KNOWN disaster it will impose on the rest of the nation.

He is the equivalent of refusing to go thru a broken red light and thereby condemning those who are stranded on a burning bridge to death.

Others are just as corrupt as the democrats.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55327 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:00 am to
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It is just that critical.


We will see what happens, but, no matter what happens: expect the worst, hope for the best, and keep an even keel no matter what.

From where I sit, I see no urgency at all within the mainstream GOP to rally an effort to pass some laws that will secure our election integrity. AND I find it very suspicious that the mainstream GOP doesn't address this issue in detail.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13246 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:17 am to
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Has any prominent GOP in Congress taken the time to explain in detail why some of the GOP won't pass it, and what amendments might change their minds to favor passing it?

Rand Paul...on the radio yesterday so I have no link...says it's because of the part that restricts mail-in ballots. Some states allow it...GOP states...and those secretly don't want it to pass and change it. Rand Paul's words...not mine.

Rand did say he was against mail-in ballots but said it might have to be dropped to get it passed with just the citizenship portion intact. He sure did make it sound like he would go for that.

As for me...frick mail-in ballots...the easiest way to cheat.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45567 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 9:20 am to
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John Kennedy is now moving to put the SAVE America Act as RECONCILIATION, 51 votes to pass


Love the idea. Not sure it meets the criteria for a reconciliation bill but I like the effort. What is the worst thing that could happen? The Senate Parliamentarian says no.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45567 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:16 am to
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Another reason we need to understand who the Parliamentarian is and how they get appointed.


1. Elizabeth MacDonough is the current Senate Parliamentarian.

2. The Senate Parliamentarian is appointed by and serves at the pleasure of the majority leader.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37352 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:18 am to
Byrd rule shuts this down pretty quickly.

It isn't a revenue/spending bill.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13817 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:23 am to
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A Louisiana Legend.....and a great US Senator!




Please, I pray he can get this done because it will be the first thing he has ever done for us as a US Senator.

Oh, I forgot. He did make us laugh a few times.


But if he helps get this passed, I would contribute to every one of his future political campaigns, and I don't even live in Louisiana anymore.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13817 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 10:24 am to
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The GOPe, for some reason, is against the SAVE Act.

I do not know why. The GOPe has never told us why.


Because they want to subvert the will of voters (including their own voters) and fix elections.
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