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John Dowd: Entire Report by Mueller is a Fraud – We’re Going to Find More False Statements

Posted on 6/4/19 at 4:04 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 4:04 am
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Former Trump Attorney John Dowd: Entire Report by Mueller is a Fraud – We’re Going to Find More False Statements
by Jim Hoft
June 3, 2019


MuellerReport edited messages to make them appear more damaging, full transcript of this phone call reveals Dowd’s message was pretty typical for a lawyer and he clearly states he’s not interested in any confidential info. What else did they manipulate?



Attorney John Dowd: "I had an obligation as counsel to the president and I’m so glad Judge Sullivan ordered the transcript because we now know the truth. And we also know that this entire report by Mueller is a fraud. And we’re going to find more of these things. Isn’t it ironic that this man who kept indicting and prosecuting people for process crimes committed a false statement in his own report by taking out half my words the changed the tenor and the contents of that conversation with Robert Kelner. And it’s an outrage and there’s probably more of it."

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Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124620 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 4:05 am to
Can Weissmann be charged for this?
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15547 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 4:19 am to
Holy Crap

And I don’t know if Weissman can be prosecuted for this but he sure as hell can be disbarred.

I hope Flynn sues him into bankruptcy.

That’s what happened to the Duke Lacrosse prosecutor.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49158 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:01 am to
Wiesstein is a POS
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14947 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:05 am to
Perhaps, but don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

While the creative editing and insinuations reveal the utter lack of credibility and political nature of the Mueller report, the inclusion of Dowd's comments to me seem to be more exculpatory than incriminating as to this theory of obstruction.

Mueller concludes he could not indict Trump based on the OLC guidance, but that did not preclude indictment of co-conspirators, which I believe was one of his justifications for going forward with the investigation into muh obstruction.

If Dowd's conversation was an act in furtherance of a scheme to obstruct, why was he not indicted for obstruction?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124620 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:24 am to
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Mueller concludes he could not indict Trump based on the OLC guidance
Mueller concluded he would not have indicted Trump, regardless of OLC guidance.

Given it had no bearing whatsoever on his findings, Mueller's prominent inclusion (and mischaracterization) of the OLC memo guidance was a red herring.
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 5:25 am
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:26 am to
Everyone knows that it’s all a lie

Everyone does

Find an angle that forces locking them up, please!
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19656 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:40 am to

So the report is a bunch of lies, and they still couldn’t pin anything on their target?
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14947 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:53 am to
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Mueller concluded he would not have indicted Trump, regardless of OLC guidance.



I guess I will have to go back and take another look at the noodle logic of the report, but I thought that the whole point was that, because of the OLC guidance and other considerations of "fairness," Mueller did not undertake the analysis one way or the other of whether DJT violated the obstruction statute.

However, one way to justify the nearly 3 year/$40 Million investigation, Mueller says that we need to smoke out any co-conspirators.

So if Dowd's call to Kelner is "evidence" of obstruction by DJT, then Mueller would have been obligated to analyze whether Dowd should have been indicted as a co-conspirator.

That Dowd was not indicted undermines this OOJ theory by Mueller.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
61568 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 6:24 am to
As Dan Bongino outlined in yesterday's show, the entire Mueller Report was little more than a 400+ page op-ed to carry water for Congress to have a vehicle to launch impeachment proceedings.

For all the folks screaming for justice, wanting to know where the perp walks are, "It's been TWO YEARS" crowd, etc you're missing the largest point:

Once the Mueller Special Counsel was launched, NOTHING could move forward with respect to the prosecution of those guilty of crimes committed during Spygate. Anything that remotely resembled justice would've been painted by Congressional Dems and their complicit MSM bedfellows as political reprisals by Trump, so long as Mueller's case were ongoing.

He didn't close up shop formally until last week, and the report was only filed 7 weeks ago.

Y'all bitches need to chill.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48924 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 6:30 am to
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Mueller concluded he would not have indicted Trump, regardless of OLC guidance.


This. If he couldn’t even go down the road of making a determination of guilt because of OLC guidance, why did he go down the road of making a determination and exonerating Trump of conspiracy? Clearly the OLC doesn’t bar him from evaluating evidence and making determinations.

If the OLC sets such a stringent precedent, why didn’t Mueller give equal respect to the precedent in the DOJ prosecutors manual which cites several court decisions regarding obstruction. Mueller lists the firing of Comey as one such potential act of Obstruction. However, precedent, and even the DOJ manual specifically state that FBI investigations are not proceedings for obstruction.

So....The OLC memo carries so much weight he can’t even start an analysis necessary to make a determination (except he did), but the precedent set by the courts and the DOJ manual is outright ignored?


Mueller did his job. He took an innocent man and muddied things enough to allow the dishonest (projecting) Democrats to whine until 2020.
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 6:33 am
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48924 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 6:31 am to
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because of the OLC guidance and other considerations of "fairness," Mueller did not undertake the analysis one way or the other of whether DJT violated the obstruction statute.


Yet he was able to undertake analysis regarding conspiracy?
Posted by shinerfan
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Member since Sep 2009
22710 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 6:36 am to
quote:

Can Weissmann be charged for this?




Mueller may well have been a decrepit figurehead but he should held responsible for the crimes of the team he hired.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18039 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:47 pm to
This was wiessman’s investigation

This was Wiesman’s report.

He is a well known POS.

I really want Mueller to testify now.

Then bring in Wiesman to testify.

The dems must know that they would be destroyed in an impeachment process.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
148045 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:51 pm to
the emails JW got on a FOIA request.

Page 6 and on
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 5:51 pm
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80335 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:59 pm to
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I don’t know if Weissman can be prosecuted for this but he sure as hell can be disbarred.



Weissmann has a long history of prosecutorial misconduct.

The Deep State taking care of its own; that’s the only way I can figure that he’s still a lawyer.
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 6:03 pm
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18039 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 6:29 pm to
And he always slips out into the darkness never to be heard from again...

He’s like a hired hit man for the feds.

Fox News needs to do a full blown expose’ on this POS.

Nobody else will that can get the exposure that they can.

And it must be repeated constantly.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
148045 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 11:06 am to
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LINK

Very sad and very disappointing.

Also: did anybody else hear Victoria Toensing say vaguely that Horowitz's OIG report has no criminal referrals?
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80335 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 11:11 am to
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The special counsel’s office (Brandon Van Grack), and the DC U.S. Attorney Jessie Liu, refused to provide the underlying evidence to the court. Instead they informed the court the material was irrelevant to their prosecution of Flynn:


This is the world we live in now: people under judicial order get to decide whether they’re going to respond or not and whether what they’re being ordered to do is relevant or not.

We are so fricked. I knew the night DJT was elected that we were finished, we were just kicking the can down the road 4-8 years.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 11:15 am
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