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re: John Brennan, Lisa Page, Peter Strzok, & others subpoenaed by fed grand jury
Posted on 11/8/25 at 5:38 am to ChineseBandit58
Posted on 11/8/25 at 5:38 am to ChineseBandit58
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IF someone was knowingly involved in a criminal conspiracy, and on occasion made statements - especially when under oath, or in serious conversation - that specifically protected the secrecy of the conspiracy would that affect the S.O.L. ?
It's unlikely that would be enough. None of this is 100% or 0% in a binary process. But just making a public statement would be difficult to warp into an act in furtherance of the conspiracy
By permitting this, even being under oath or giving a statement to LEO, then the state could always get around the SOL rules by bringing in a suspect and making it give a statement. Regardless of what the suspect says, in that broad reading the SOL would reset. The state would have a loophole, effectively to thwart SOL entirely.
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Posted on 11/8/25 at 5:47 am to RobbBobb
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To charge under RICO, at least two predicate crimes within 10 years must have been committed
That looks backwards within the enterprise, but once the 5-year period lapses, you can't look back at all. That's a secondary limitation within the enterprise, but the case dies once the 5 years hits.
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So, if the DIM party is the enterprise,
If? sure, but that is a silly thing to expect.
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then all "corrupted" acts against Trump (Brenna/Clapper oped in August) would fall within that 10 year window, correct? And thus allow a RICO case well within the 5 year window?
The 5-year window becomes irrelevant in that "IF" scenario, as the Democrat Party exists today and is still opposing Trump politically. So the 5-year window never closes, so yes, then those acts could be considered to constitute the predicate acts necessary for RICO
But that Democratic Party isn't going to be charged with RICO. I know that's a fever dream for some on here, but that would mean you could prosecute the entire political opposition to Trump
Posted on 11/8/25 at 5:48 am to hawgfaninc
I want them three, especially Strzok, to burn the most…
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:02 am to MikkUGA
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Rico has a 5 year SOL not from the crime but from the last crime known to be committed as part of the conspiracy.
And the theoretical Crossfire Hurricane crimes by this purported enterprise ended before/during the Meuller investigation. Unless you want to argue THAT was part of the enterprise, too. And that report was in 2019.
What's missing in this theory is the connective tissue between the acts while Obama was President and November 2020.
Take Brennan. He hasn't held a government job since 2017 and lost his security clearance in 2018. Where is the continuing activity with the purported enterprise, and what criminal acts were they engaged in through November 2020?
Loretta Lynch has been in the private sector since 2019. Nothing notable that I can see that would link her in this enterprise thereafter.
Clapper has been in the private sector since 2017 and does media work. Nothing notable that I can see that would link him in the enterprise thereafter.
Page? Strozk? Gone since like 2018. The OIG Report was in June of 2018 and the following Congressional testimony was in July 2018. Have either done anything of substance since? McCabe? Fired in 2018.
What happens in response is typically twofold: (1) people pushing RICO expand the enterprise into absolutely silly proportions (2) people pushing RICO expand the overt acts/last crime standard into absolute silliness.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:03 am to SaintsTiger
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They screwed up when they raided Mar-A-Largo.
Now Florida courts have jurisdiction
Over whom? Why would Florida courts have jurisdiction over the Crossfire Hurricane case? Who involved in CFH was involved in the MAL raid?
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:24 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Always rooting for the bad guys. Don't y'all take an oath of some sort? If not, you should. Damn!
It would be funny if they filed motions to quash the subpoenas based on jurisdiction issues and that litigation took so long the admin ran out of time before the 2028 election, before any testimony was even given.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:32 am to Diamondawg
Megyn Kelly usually breaks down cases.
She had on Shapiro mediating him and the Tucker Fuentes war. I don't like Shapiro or Fuentes. Why is there a mini war?
Tucker has a point having on the guy challenging Graham. I think SC wIll vote out Graham.
So this isnt in the discussion venue yet- regarding laws applied to the POS Brennan and gang.
What is Mike Davis saying regarding how this will play out legally?
She had on Shapiro mediating him and the Tucker Fuentes war. I don't like Shapiro or Fuentes. Why is there a mini war?
Tucker has a point having on the guy challenging Graham. I think SC wIll vote out Graham.
So this isnt in the discussion venue yet- regarding laws applied to the POS Brennan and gang.
What is Mike Davis saying regarding how this will play out legally?
Posted on 11/8/25 at 6:54 am to VoxDawg
Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:17 am to hawgfaninc
This is what I have been saying since Trump won.... folks will be desperately trying to cut deals and the strings will start unraveling.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:24 am to LSURulzSEC
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I want them three, especially Strzok, to burn the most…
My top 4 are Wray, Comey, Shifty Shiff and Garland. The day any of those 4 are put in handcuffs will be a great day.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 7:49 am to SlowFlowPro
RICO and Conspiracy. Res gatae continues.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:11 am to SaintsTiger
RICO has a 5-year SOL from the last criminal act.
Crossfire Hurricane ended in what, 2017?
As I posted in another thread, the Mueller report, which specifically investigated CFH, is more than 5 years old.
Crossfire Hurricane ended in what, 2017?
As I posted in another thread, the Mueller report, which specifically investigated CFH, is more than 5 years old.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:18 am to lake chuck fan
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strings will start unraveling.
unraveling threads huh?
Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:51 am to Warboo
5th universally invoked. NOTHING will happen.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 9:16 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I think you are missing arctic frost continuing to at least 2020 easily 2024-- and the new damning evidence of this. Imagine all the Ops names we don't know...
Crossfire Hurricane ended in what, 2017?
Posted on 11/8/25 at 9:20 am to hawgfaninc
Oh boy. Strongly worded letters and tweets!
Can't wait to see nothing happen again.
Can't wait to see nothing happen again.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 9:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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But that Democratic Party isn't going to be charged with RICO. I know that's a fever dream for some on here, but that would mean you could prosecute the entire political opposition to Trump
So the fact that the J6 pipe bomber being a Ca[pital city police officer (and now CIA) wouldnt magnify the DIM party enterprise as a set-up to get Trump, and extends the 5 year window to Jan '26?
Posted on 11/8/25 at 9:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's unlikely that would be enough. None of this is 100% or 0% in a binary process
thanks - I know it must be gnarly and subject to the wizards of the gavel.
what about destroying documentation that would relate to their part in the situation - before or after anyone had brought attention that there may be illegally involved?
If after there was question about the behavior, then I would see destroying documentation that might be evidence would reset the SOL.
But what about before? - if someone reflected on their past involvement and decided it 'might' be illegal, they go and destroy any links to their participation - would THAT be a "furtherance of the conspiracy?"
Or if they may not have answered questions "totally truthfully" in questions about related matters before any questions about a 'conspiracy' had arisen?
Posted on 11/8/25 at 9:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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RICO has a 5-year SOL from the last criminal act. Crossfire Hurricane ended in what, 2017? As I posted in another thread, the Mueller report, which specifically investigated CFH, is more than 5 years old.
Maralago raid was a continuation of the criminal conspiracy. That was less than 5 years ago.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
Posted on 11/8/25 at 9:47 am to RobbBobb
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So the fact that the J6 pipe bomber being a Ca[pital city police officer (and now CIA) wouldnt magnify the DIM party enterprise as a set-up to get Trump,
It would be a completely different operation than CFH.
The issue in trying to make this one GTOE is the connectivity, as I said in the other thread.
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