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re: Joe Rogan is concerned about the "innocent gay hairdressers - lumped up with the gangs."

Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:46 am to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34016 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:46 am to
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I don’t like this precedent of taking people off the streets and shipping them to that prison with no process at all,


They are subject to imprisonment in any country we send them, including their country of origin. What happens when we drop them off at the airport is not our responsibility.

If we drop off a TdA gang member in Argentina, what do you think will happen? Or Chile? Or Mexico?

Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67466 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:49 am to
Yeah the video of the Turkish student really does look like something that happens in Iran or N. Korea.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36713 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 8:55 am to
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when many of us bitched and called you tards for not literally protesting and demanding the patriot act be dissolved, u morons gave away more rights.

they can keep them and American citizens as long as they want, w/o any charges, while using the patriot act.

thank you frickhead W, Odummy


pretty much this

told you fricks to stop supporting the patriot act but the fricking dems and warmongering side of the R's loved all that power so this is what happens

but

1) these are not us citizens- they do not have the same rights

2) bottom line is, Hamas is a designated terror group(rightfully so), and the turkey girl supported them...frick her, i dont care how long she has been here


and here is the other thing that needs to be brought up...why the frick are we educated so many international students in the US? why are we prioritizing them to the top universities over American students...in fact i think i may make a seperate thread on this
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32737 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:03 am to
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They are subject to imprisonment in any country we send them, including their country of origin. What happens when we drop them off at the airport is not our responsibility. If we drop off a TdA gang member in Argentina, what do you think will happen? Or Chile? Or Mexico?

We specifically shipped them in custody and directly inserted them into the prison. We imprisoned them. We need to have due process. Keep them in a prison in the US until due process has been completed and we have enough evidence to ship them off to El Salvador
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32737 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:07 am to
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Yeah the video of the Turkish student really does look like something that happens in Iran or N. Korea.

It’s really suspect. Plain clothes people basically abducting her in the middle of the street. We need to be better about this. They can use plain clothes for initial apprehension to catch them by surprise and make success more likely but need real officers in uniform to take them in. And we need some level of due process. Even if she’s supporting Hamas, she isn’t an illegal alien the second they pull her visa. She was allowed here legally. If we have evidence she was supporting Hamas, that’s enough to prove it in due process then send her home
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
14672 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:10 am to
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and here is the other thing that needs to be brought up...why the frick are we educated so many international students in the US? why are we prioritizing them to the top universities over American students...in fact i think i may make a seperate thread on this


There's two different things happening.

First, is the deportation of the students.

Second, is shipping illegals straight to max security prisons in South America.

I have zero problem with deportations, be it illegals or trouble making legal visitors.

However, sending people to prison without due process of any type might be a step too far. I really don't give a shite what happens to gang members, but we really need to make sure the folks getting sent to prison have actually committed a crime (and something worse than being here illegally).
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8437 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:12 am to
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Most of these guys dont understand the difference between refugees and illegals. Its a waste of time trying to explain to them.


....or visa and green card holders.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296567 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:13 am to
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....or visa and green card holders.


Yep, everyone who is ESL has to be an illegal according to most here.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34016 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:19 am to
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We specifically shipped them in custody


Every one of these deportations are shipped in custody, even to their home countries. It's the only safe way to do it.

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and directly inserted them into the prison. We imprisoned them.


We handed them over to the El Salvador authorities, who then imprisoned them. We did not imprison them.

Virtually any country in the world would imprison these people right off the plane.
This post was edited on 3/31/25 at 9:21 am
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8437 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:21 am to
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To act as a deterrent. It’s brutal but probably effective, and we need something effective.


I am in agreement about needing deterrence to stop illegal immigration...but, both Ozturk and Khalil entered legally.

Posted by Da #1 Stunna
985
Member since Oct 2012
1840 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:22 am to
I don't give a shite about those gang members and if it is legal.
THEY DO NOT BELONG HERE!!!!
I don't care if they fly them over their country and push them out the plane while still in the air. I don't care if they throw illegals back over the border wall with a medieval catapult. We are trying to rid our country of a scourge. Its far too late to be nice about it. GET THE F*#K OUT!!!!

The campus agitator should also be kicked out immediately. Instead of being on your best behavior..........We give you a green card to educate and enrich you life living in the best country on the planet, and you start organizing protests against people based on religion, harassing and demanding as a victim??? No sir. I don't think so.

It is our prerogative to get rid of anyone that is not a citizen, and Rubio (State Dept) has the authority to do so.

These cases should be easy wins at the Supreme Court level, and once it is set, the next 4 years are going to be a non-stop conveyer belt of illegals out the door. Can't wait!!
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17565 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:23 am to
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For the record, I hate the case with the Turkish girl based on what we know.


I dont.

I think we should do many more of these type of operations and make sure there is video of it.

You want people to see.

We need more of this not less.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32737 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:23 am to
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We handed them over to the El Salvador authorities, who then imprisoned them. We did not imprison them.

We have a deal with ES to imprison them, at that specific prison. You’re arguing semantics
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34016 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:24 am to
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both Ozturk and Khalil entered legally.


Do you know what the case and/or evidence is against them?

People are stating that they are being deported for "speech" or "editorials" when the public does not know the evidence. Perhaps they are. Perhaps there is evidence they are terrorists.


Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
19042 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:24 am to
If your stance is anything but “keep deporting the criminals to CEDOT while also releasing the innocent hair dressers to their home country”… you’re either dumb or evil.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32737 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:26 am to
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I am in agreement about needing deterrence to stop illegal immigration...

We should use it as a deterrent for the worst US criminals as well, as an option when life in prison is the sentence
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23055 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:27 am to
Deterrents

Illegal alien hairdressers will stop coming here if they think they might wind up in an Salvadorian prison
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34016 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:27 am to
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We have a deal with ES to imprison them, at that specific prison. You’re arguing semantics


It's not semantics that El Salvador is an independent country. They can choose to imprison who they want.

What country on Earth do you think would NOT imprison these people right off the plane?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61368 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:29 am to
They aren’t America’s problem because they are not citizens of this country. There is no due process. Goodbye.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32737 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 9:29 am to
If we ship them there on a deal to put them in that specific prison, we are imprisoning them. We’re likely giving them money for each criminal we put in there too
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