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TigerBlazer
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re: Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm
TX can’t have it both ways. They chose to have a stand alone grid to skirt federal regulations.

If they had been part of the national grid, like LA or OK, they would not have had these issues bc they could get power from other areas.

They were also warned 10 years ago to winterize their equipment and they chose not to.

Now they want to blame the federal govt & taxpayers for not bailing them out. BS.

They didn’t want the federal govt regulating their utilities, so they privatized. Now they want the federal govt to save their arse for their decisions.

I thought Republicans were the party of small govt and personal responsibility. And don’t Republicans hate socialism? Or is it ok when they want to socialize their losses and have the taxpayers bail them out.

You know if this exact scenario happened in CA, every one of you Rs would say “tough shit” - not the job of the feds or the tax payers to bail you out. Pull yourself up by your boot straps and deal with it



notsince98
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re: Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm
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ERCOT said themselves that the permission was granted.


Permission to increase output was granted but permission to exceed emissions regulations WERE SPECIFICALLY NOT GRANTED.

ERCOT needed approval for both and did not get permission granted on both. Why do you keep ignoring that?


notsince98
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re: Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm
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TX can’t have it both ways. They chose to have a stand alone grid to skirt federal regulations.

If they had been part of the national grid, like LA or OK, they would not have had these issues bc they could get power from other areas.


This is completely wrong on so many levels.

1) Texas doesn't skirt any federal regulations. They comply to all. Deregulation provided a way for competitive power delivery, that is it.

2) The national grid had problems. Kansas City metro for one concrete example had rolling blackouts despite being fully regulated and on the national grid. It happened many places.



Mickey Goldmill
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re: Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm
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Permission to increase output was granted but permission to exceed emissions regulations WERE SPECIFICALLY NOT GRANTED.

ERCOT needed approval for both and did not get permission granted on both. Why do you keep ignoring that?


The whole point of the request was to increase output at levels that would exceed emissions standards. Otherwise, they wouldn't need to make the request in the first place.


notsince98
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re: Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm
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The whole point of the request was to increase output at levels that would exceed emissions standards. Otherwise, they wouldn't need to make the request in the first place.


So you are agreeing that they were indeed not granted permission? They could not increase output without exceeding levels and the text you quoted in previous posts clearly indicates the feds did not give ERCOT permission to increase emissions.

It is the equivalent to telling someone they can borrow your car but the fuel tank has to remain empty. Sure you gave them permission to borrow your car but you negated anyway for them to operate the car.


Mickey Goldmill
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re: Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm
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So you are agreeing that they were indeed not granted permission? They could not increase output without exceeding levels and the text you quoted in previous posts clearly indicates the feds did not give ERCOT permission to increase emissions.

It is the equivalent to telling someone they can borrow your car but the fuel tank has to remain empty. Sure you gave them permission to borrow your car but you negated anyway for them to operate the car.



Jesus....No that's not what the order says and not what I am saying. The request was to temporarily exceed emissions standards as a last resort. That was granted.

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For that reason, ERCOT asked the department for authorization for “all electric generating units” that are part of its network “to operate up to their maximum generation output levels under the limited circumstances described in this letter, notwithstanding air quality of other permit limitations.”

Three power agencies told ERCOT that operating for maximum output would push them over limits set in federal permits for emissions of nitrogen oxide, carbon monoxide, sulfur dioxide, mercury along with release of wastewater, according to the letter.


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ERCOT asked for leeway on those limits during its energy emergency, which expired on Feb. 19. It described its request as “narrowly tailored to allow only the exceedances that are necessary to ensure reliability over the next few days” and noted that power generated under the request would be the last used to fill its needs.


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“ERCOT does not lightly request this authorization. It understands the importance of the environmental permit limits that are at issue. However, in ERCOT’s judgment, the loss of power to homes and local businesses in the areas affected by curtailments presents a far greater risk to public health and safety than the temporary exceedances of those permit limits that would be allowed under the requested order,” ERCOT wrote in its request.


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DOE’s order acknowledges that Texas’ shortage of electricity generation was an emergency that it was seeking to remedy.

Huizenga wrote in the order that the department was granting the request because of that emergency and that it was limiting operation above the permitted level “to the times and within the parameters determined by ERCOT for reliability purposes” to “minimize adverse environmental impacts.”

A list of power-generating units that the order applied to also was included and updated nine times while it was in effect.


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Wild Thang
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re: Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm
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Mickey Goldmill


You are an embarrassment to your family.


Mickey Goldmill
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re: Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm
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You are an embarrassment to your family.



We're just having a civil discussion here. Why do you have to resort to personal attacks, especially when I don't attack others on this board?


Cossatotjoe
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re: Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm
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TX can’t have it both ways. They chose to have a stand alone grid to skirt federal regulations.

If they had been part of the national grid, like LA or OK, they would not have had these issues bc they could get power from other areas.

They were also warned 10 years ago to winterize their equipment and they chose not to.

Now they want to blame the federal govt & taxpayers for not bailing them out. BS.

They didn’t want the federal govt regulating their utilities, so they privatized. Now they want the federal govt to save their arse for their decisions.

I thought Republicans were the party of small govt and personal responsibility. And don’t Republicans hate socialism? Or is it ok when they want to socialize their losses and have the taxpayers bail them out.

You know if this exact scenario happened in CA, every one of you Rs would say “tough shit” - not the job of the feds or the tax payers to bail you out. Pull yourself up by your boot straps and deal with it




This is just a bunch of outright lies.

Texas DID NOT choose to have a separate grid to skirt federal regulations. Texas has a separate grid and pretty much always has. It DOES NOT skirt federal regulations. It is a grid like any of the other grids, it just happens to be within the boundaries of one state. Much that is merely a result of the size of Texas as opposed to most other states. Texas can and does regularly purchase from and send power to the other interconnected grids and even to Mexico. It couldn’t do it this time because ALL of those other grids in close proximity to Texas were hit with the same weather event and were using maximum amounts of power themselves. They had little to no power to spare.

It was snowing at one point last week with temps in the single digits from Northern Mexico to the Canadian border.


Redbone
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re: Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm
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You are an embarrassment to your family.

Dude has to look as goofy as the pic he has under his username.

He speaks (writes) as though he has at least a normal I.Q. but fails to understand what he writes and CERTAINLY fails to understand what others write.


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BamaGradinTn
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re: Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm
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Do you know how hard it is to read a post written like yours? All the random CAPS and **** everywhere.


For someone with your OBVIOUS INTELLECTUAL TALENTS? Yes, I can see how you find it difficult to f*cking read.


You're mocking someone else's intellect and reading ability?



You're a fricking idiot. You obviously have the IQ of someone who's functionally mentally retarded, at best. As has been pointed out, this has now been debunked by multiple sources, and TX clearly had all the authorization they needed.

Intellectual talents? You've obviously got fewer brain cells than the head of cabbage in my fridge. Just shut the frick up.


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Redbone
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re: Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm
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I don't attack others on this board?
Maybe not but what you write is usually insulting enough to count as same.


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Mickey Goldmill
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re: Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm
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Dude has to look as goofy as the pic he has under his username.



Not in the least. I'm only 32. Just a big Rocky fan.


Vacherie Saint
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re: Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm
They approved the request, and even stated that ERCOT could exceed environmental regulations, however, they are requiring them to import more pricey renewables and submit all kind of insane environmental disclosures with crazy deadlines. They essentially buried ERCOT in paperwork. I'd be interested to hear from ERCOT on whether they were even able to comply with these conditions. That's the real story. If they did, this is a nothingbuger.

Forget infowars, and forget these stupid fact-checkers and discuss the letter from DOE on its face.


Mickey Goldmill
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re: Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm
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They approved the request, and even stated that ERCOT could exceed environmental regulations, however, they are requiring them to import more pricey renewables and submit all kind of insane environmental disclosures with crazy deadlines. They essentially buried ERCOT in paperwork. I'd be interested to hear from ERCOT on whether they were even able to comply with these conditions. That's the real story. If they did, this is a nothingbuger.



Oh I agree it looks like they put a ton of reporting/disclosure requirements on them in order to exceed emissions standards. I'd be interested to know if they were too cumbersome for ERCOT to handle as well or if those requirements were something typical that ERCOT was prepared to deal with.



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SDVTiger
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re: Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm
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Not in the least. I'm only 32.


So that means you dont look like a goofball irl

Cmon man


Mickey Goldmill
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re: Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm
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So that means you dont look like a goofball irl

Cmon man


fair enough


TheRouxGuru
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re: Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm
Just curious, do you look like the prototypical, america-hating socialist? Or do you rock a different style? A true trailblazer, if you will?


The Eric
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re: Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm
If anything this should force Texas closer to Texit


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Mickey Goldmill
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re: Joe Biden’s Dept. of Energy Blocked Texas from Increasing Power Ahead of Enduring Storm
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Just curious, do you look like the prototypical, america-hating socialist? Or do you rock a different style? A true trailblazer, if you will?



I'm born and raised in Baton Rouge. Lived here my entire life and been working in office-settings since I was 17. Dressing professional is important, imo. If you sat next to me at a ballgame, you wouldn't think I was a "prototypical, America-hating socialist." Because I'm not.


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