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re: Joe Biden Suddenly Leads Donald Trump in Multiple Polls: Newsweek

Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:20 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260630 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:20 am to
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Did the donations buy his position for him?


Do you understand how campaigning works?

Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
1435 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:23 am to
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RFK isn’t running.
He won’t be on the ballot in any state that matters.



What drugs are you on? He is already on the ballot in Georgia and Arizona. And will most likely end up on the ballot in every state.

Georgia 3rd Party (2016) - 3.5%
Georgia 3rd Party (2020) - 1.29%

Arizona 3rd Party (2016) - 5.78%
Arizona 3rd Party (2020) - 1.58%

Biden won Georgia in 2020 by 12,000 votes. If 3rd party went up to 2016 levels, Biden would be in the red by about 90,000 votes. And Gary Johnson was a nobody compared to RFK.

Biden won Arizona by 11000 votes. If 3rd party vote approached 2016 levels, Biden would be in the red about 120000 votes.

This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 11:26 am
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:23 am to
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Do you understand how campaigning works?

Do you?

You were making excuses for desantis losing the primary. He campaigned in Florida and won. He got donations in Florida, right? Seemed to do pretty well in Florida. Then he got absolutely CRUSHED in the primary. Did he not get donations in the primary? Was he not the same person? What happened?
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21334 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:24 am to
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And Gary Johnson was a nobody compared to RFK.

RFK is a nobody to Democratic voters. Just look how popular he is on this board. he won't make a dent in Biden's numbers.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 11:25 am
Posted by matty3387
Metairie
Member since May 2018
904 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:24 am to
Yeah right. Believe that if ya want.
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
13255 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:26 am to
You will get for Biden.
You’re a clown.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101452 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:28 am to
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RFK is a nobody to Democratic voters. Just look how popular he is on this board. he won't make a dent in Biden's numbers.


His name alone could pull enough random goofy people to swing a couple of places.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6796 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:28 am to
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If that's true, it's horrible news for Republicans.


It's going to come down to the same 5 or 6 swing states as last time and the time before that. I don't see Trump being able to flip Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

Trump's best chance in probably Michigan if the Hamas/Arab contingent stay home and don't vote for Biden out of protest of what is happening in Middle East. Trump has zero chance in Georgia because of Metro Atlanta. Arizona is an uphill climb for him as well.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21334 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:28 am to
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You will get for Biden.


Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21334 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:29 am to
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His name alone could pull enough random goofy people to swing a couple of places.


This isn't the 1960s. That name doesn't mean a damn thing anymore.
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
13255 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:30 am to
Vote*
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21334 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:30 am to
Oh. Of course I will.
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
1435 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:31 am to
Trump lost Georgia by 12000 votes and Arizona by 11000 votes. Hardly out of reach, unless you are referring to their questionable election policies.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111540 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:32 am to
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What drugs are you on? He is already on the ballot in Georgia and Arizona. And will most likely end up on the ballot in every state.

I stand corrected on that, then.

The Democrats aren’t worried about him at all.

I suspect that they know the situation better than wareagle7298.

He might even take a chunk of Reagan Democrats from Trump.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101452 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:33 am to
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This isn't the 1960s. That name doesn't mean a damn thing anymore.


There's places where it would only take a handful of mostly senile old geezers who only know they think Biden is a complete doofus, combined with another handful of young idealist types who sort of think the same and have other ideas.

I get that you much prefer Biden, and can't conceive of any democrat thinking otherwise. You seem to be sort of the flipside of the "cultists" I see so much yammering about here.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146878 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:33 am to
Joe formed a sentence so cherry pick some dems counted as independents.

Biden went on about how much is paid to get across the border. His speech was pathetic.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19522 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:34 am to
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No nationwide poll will ever be relevant or worth noticing in a US Presidential election.


Only one poll in 2016 got it right. The USC poll used a trick question to find Trump voters who didn't want to admit it due to so much media disparaging all things Trump. They were dead on.
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
1435 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:35 am to
Democrats of painfully aware of the effect RFK will have on the election, and thus doing everything in their power to

1. Fight him being on the ballot at every chance
2. Doing their best to associate him with Trump

Left-leaning "Third Way" effort to stop or discredit the "No Labels" move for third party candidates. Lots of news on how VERY MUCH the Democrats are concerned about this. Just because you don't believe it doesn't make the issue go away. If it was a nothinburger, they would not even bother.

Third Way
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6513 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:36 am to
Newsweek and USA Today.

I used to tell Hotels ....Put that crap under my door, be prepared to find it torn up and scattered down the hallway ....

I traveled a week in and a week out......
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6796 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:40 am to
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Hardly out of reach, unless you are referring to their questionable election policies.


Metro Atlanta is full of college educated men and women most of whom are not from Atlanta or even Georgia they are transplants working for many of Fortune 500 companies based here. Trump's numbers with that group are abysmal. He can't overcome it at this point and getting in internet flame wars on twitter with Bette Midler, and other women isn't going to help him. Trump is a god damn moron this election should be a slam dunk for him (or any Republican) but it won't be because you imbeciles nominated Trump a guy half the country hates
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