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re: Jesus was from Nazareth
Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:50 am to Errerrerrwere
Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:50 am to Errerrerrwere
quote:
Judaeo-Christianquote:
Define this word. Be specific.
I do not care for that term... or how it's used... or how there are so many that use it to encompass Christian worldview.
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Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:50 am to FooManChoo
quote:This bears repeating.
The core of your assault against God has at least three major problems: 1) it assumes a concept of objective morality that only exists if God exists, 2) it assumes that God is unjust to destroy His own creation, and 3) it assumes those He destroys are innocent and undeserving of such destruction. You are wrong about all of these things.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:53 am to Azkiger
quote:
So why did God kill people
God doesn’t kill people men kill
People and if you believe that your just being a tool for the devil
Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:53 am to Errerrerrwere
The fulfilled prophecy is that Jesus came from the house of David.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:54 am to Errerrerrwere
I think I understand your post, maybe you can clarify it more for me.
It seems like you’re saying Christians shouldn’t be tied to contemporary Judaism. However, I do not understand what you’re trying to say about Christ.
It seems like you’re saying Christians shouldn’t be tied to contemporary Judaism. However, I do not understand what you’re trying to say about Christ.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 9:57 am to TigerJack8
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It seems like you’re saying Christians shouldn’t be tied to contemporary Judaism.
Yes.
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However, I do not understand what you’re trying to say about Christ.
I laid out 3 arguments.
He wasn't from Judaea
He is Devine
He spoke out against the Pharisee's, actually said a lot of bad stuff about them, and their faith then is much different than Judaism today.
He may have been a Jew in ethnicity but not a Jew from any metric. Just my assessment is all.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:01 am to RoyalWe
quote:
Your conclusion assumes that if a less harmful option is conceivable
There's no if. There is a non-lethal way to accomplish what God wanted.
Like, zero deaths.
So what did he do? Killed the entire planet.*
*Effectively.
quote:
then any lethal outcome is necessarily senseless.
That's the definition of senseless. If all I need to change a lightbulb is a ladder and a new bulb, killing my neighbors children as part of the lightbulb changing process is, by definition, senseless.
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 10:11 am
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:03 am to Errerrerrwere
quote:
He spoke out against the Pharisee's, actually said a lot of bad stuff about them, and their faith then is much different than Judaism today.
He never spoke against the faith... it was about how the practiced their faith.
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He may have been a Jew in ethnicity but not a Jew from any metric. Just my assessment is all.
He was a practicing Jew... not just simply an ethnic one.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:09 am to Errerrerrwere
quote:
He may have been a Jew in ethnicity but not a Jew from any metric. Just my assessment is all.
OK...
So you admit that he was Jewish Ethnically.
Without reading the other pages of this thread it looks like you learned something.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:12 am to Errerrerrwere
So everyone calling Jesus a Jew for the past 200 years was wrong. Thankfully we have you to correct everyone.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:13 am to SallysHuman
Calling them "hypocrites" and "blind guides", Accusing them of nullifying God's commandments for the sake of their own oral traditions, Comparing them to "whitewashed tombs, Stating that they were plotting to kill him, Condemning them for rejecting the prophets, Declaring that the Kingdom of God would be taken away from them, and Referring to them as a "brood of vipers" doesn't sound very Jewish to me.
Again, in context I don't believe you can deny his ethnicity. But in his beliefs and what He actually said you can. Then it's pretty obvious where he was from. And his Divinity. The son of God doesn't belong to a religion. He IS the religion.
Again, in context I don't believe you can deny his ethnicity. But in his beliefs and what He actually said you can. Then it's pretty obvious where he was from. And his Divinity. The son of God doesn't belong to a religion. He IS the religion.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:14 am to Narax
quote:
So you admit that he was Jewish Ethnically.
Yes. But aren't Jews the only people that are race and religion? Why is that?
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:15 am to Errerrerrwere
quote:
Calling them "hypocrites" and "blind guides", Accusing them of nullifying God's commandments for the sake of their own oral traditions, Comparing them to "whitewashed tombs, Stating that they were plotting to kill him, Condemning them for rejecting the prophets, Declaring that the Kingdom of God would be taken away from them, and Referring to them as a "brood of vipers" doesn't sound very Jewish to me.
Re read what you wrote.
He called them hypocrites BECAUSE they weren't practicing the faith correctly. BECAUSE they allowed their traditions of men to overtake the faith.
Faith wasn't the problem, their practice of it was.
Otherwise they couldn't BE "hypocrites".
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:16 am to SallysHuman
Well he said a lot more than that. I posted it.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:19 am to Errerrerrwere
quote:
Well he said a lot more than that. I posted it.
All of which was to call those out that perverted their practice of the faith.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:21 am to Azkiger
quote:We’re talking past each other.
That's the definition of senseless. If all I need to change a lightbulb is a ladder and a new bulb, killing my neighbors children as part of the lightbulb changing process is, by definition, senseless.
You’ve defined “senseless” as “not the least harmful imaginable option.” That already assumes a utilitarian framework, so any non-optimizing answer is rejected by definition.
Jesus didn’t reason about God that way and explicitly refused to interpret death or disaster through efficiency or hypothetical alternatives.
At this point the disagreement isn’t factual—it’s about what kind of moral reasoning you’ll accept. On that, we’re not going to converge.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:21 am to Errerrerrwere
quote:
Yes. But aren't Jews the only people that are race and religion? Why is that?
No, not even in the slightest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnoreligious_group
I'ts good that you recognize Jesus was ethnically Jewish (your OP).
I think where you are missing the picture of why Jesus participated in the Jewish religion while growing up is that the Old Testament showed people before the sacrifice of Christ how to approach God.
Jesus, would approach His Father, and yes, the proper way, the respectful honorable way to do that was written in the law of Moses.
I think you have a better claim that Biblical Judaism which Jesus Practiced is far different than modern Judaism.
Or that Jesus (and David, Elijah, John the Baptist etc...) did not practice anything like modern Judaism.
This post was edited on 12/20/25 at 10:23 am
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:22 am to Narax
quote:
I think you have a better claim that Biblical Judaism which Jesus Practiced is far different than modern Judaism. Or that Jesus (and David, Elijah, John the Baptist etc...) did not practice anything like modern Judaism.
I've been pretty consistent on this throughout the thread.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:24 am to Errerrerrwere
He's from the line of David and is refrred to as the Lion of Judah.
Posted on 12/20/25 at 10:26 am to Adajax
Yet not from Judah.
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