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re: “Jesus was a refugee”
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:11 pm to Diamondawg
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:11 pm to Diamondawg
quote:Does anyone who has studied the history actually believe that this purported census really took place, given that the Romans (absolutely NOTORIOUS record-keepers) have ZERO record of any such event? When the Romans NEVER held a census even remotely resembling the ridiculous intrusion described in Luke?quote:Actually, it was for a census. Joseph, being of the House of David, had to go to Bethlehem.
they were going to Bethlehem to pay their annual taxes.
The author of Luke misdated the Census of Quirinius to create a reason for Mary and Joseph to have been in Bethlehem rather than Nazareth, because Micah says that the Messiah would be born there (and not in Nazareth). He overlooks the fact that Judea was under direct Roman rule at the time of that census, but that Nazareth was NOT. As such, Joseph and Mary would have been under no compulsion to participate in any such census.
In short, it is a retcon.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 5:19 pm
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:28 pm to civilag08
Downvoting uncomfortable truths is a poliboard staple.
But also point taken. I mostly agree w what you said.
But also point taken. I mostly agree w what you said.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:31 pm to RollTide1987
The term “refugee” is being used and applied incorrectly to illegals. Jesus was sin free and didn’t break the law of the land. The Bible says to obey the law of the land.
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:43 pm to mwade91383
quote:
ownvoting uncomfortable truths is a poliboard stapl
Now do Jesus and abortion. I'm sure the left king find some equivalency there, too.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:48 pm to RTRinTampa
quote:What a perfectly-spectacular strawman!
Now do Jesus and abortion. I'm sure the left king find some equivalency there, too.
No one who knows the Bible can assert with a straight face that Jesus' family were not political refugees. (No, most folks at the southern border are NOT political refugees.)
No one who knows the Bible will assert that Jesus would have supported abortion rights.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:51 pm to RollTide1987
And the fact Jesus is our Lord and Savior.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:55 pm to AggieHank86
None of that matters - God is sovereign and allowed those words to be written that way for a reason. The Historicity of the scriptures has zero baring on we other it is true or not. If it’s in the Bible then it’s true - God allowed it and he can’t lie. The Bible a living breathing spirit filled document what only matters is how it applies to us today. Not how it applied to them back then.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:55 pm to RTRinTampa
Goofy whataboutisms, another poliboard staple.
You’re literally making my point for me.
You’re literally making my point for me.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:59 pm to RollTide1987
And they also are trying to isolate a single issue for political gain.
I’ve got news for them. Jesus is pro life, against “open relationships”, would be against sexual predators using the opposite gender’s bathroom, etc.
I’ve got news for them. Jesus is pro life, against “open relationships”, would be against sexual predators using the opposite gender’s bathroom, etc.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:17 pm to Kreg Jennings
quote:Public restrooms were rare in Roman territory during the early first century, but where they did exist, they were unisex. There is no record of either Jesus or any of his followers objecting to that practice.
Jesus is … would be against … using the opposite gender’s bathroom
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:19 pm to RollTide1987
They just played the one where criminal getting executed
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:19 pm to FlexDawg
quote:
The term “refugee” is being used and applied incorrectly to illegals.
Because of retarded progressives.
They are easily duped.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:23 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Public restrooms were rare in Roman territory during the early first century, but where they did exist, they were unisex. There is no record of either Jesus or any of his followers objecting to that practice.
Okay, I’m confident Jesus would be against sexual predators identifying as “x” to prey on victims.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:27 pm to AggieHank86
How dare you come in here referencing things that actually happened?
This is the poliboard!
This is the poliboard!
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:27 pm to AggieHank86
quote:Not a Roman history expert by any stretch but how does Roman history record the beheading of John the Baptist and why, and how does Roman history record the passing back and forth of Pontius Pilot and Herod Antipas at Jesus' "trial"?
Does anyone who has studied the history actually believe that this purported census really took place, given that the Romans (absolutely NOTORIOUS record-keepers) have ZERO record of any such event? When the Romans NEVER held a census even remotely resembling the ridiculous intrusion described in Luke?
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:29 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
There is no record of either Jesus or any of his followers objecting to that practice
There is no record of Jesus being in favor of milkman, therefore we may conclude that he did not approve of yell leaders.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:30 pm to Kreg Jennings
quote:
, I’m confident Jesus would be against sexual predators
He might want us to take care of it for him
quote:
Luke 17:2 - It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
Story time cleanout...
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:31 pm to Kreg Jennings
quote:I tend to agree.
I’m confident Jesus would be against sexual predators identifying as “x” to prey on victims.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:36 pm to RollTide1987
It's more about the audacity of comparing every illegal immigrant to Jesus Christ. It's meant to be a spit in the face to diehard Christians, and a subtle coaxing to newer Christians.
It's funny because left only does shite like this against Christians. They'll never try to compare anyone to Muhammad.
It's funny because left only does shite like this against Christians. They'll never try to compare anyone to Muhammad.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 6:36 pm to Diamondawg
quote:Well, that did not happen in Roman territory, so there would have been no reason for the Romans to record anything about it. Josephus did mention it in Antiquities, but he was not maintaining a contemporaneous record ... but rather recording oral tradition of something purported to have happened more than sixty years earlier.
Not a Roman history expert by any stretch but how does Roman history record the beheading of John the Baptist
quote:It doesn't. But it DOES record Pilate's tenure as a real event.
how does Roman history record the passing back and forth of Pontius Pilot and Herod Antipas at his "trial"?\
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