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re: Jesus Was a Refugee Commercial
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:23 am to Squirrelmeister
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:23 am to Squirrelmeister
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Stupidity really chaps my arse.
It does not.
You post enough stupid stuff here that if that were true you'd have died of a terminally chapped arse years ago.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 1:14 am to BasedAF
We have a process to receive refugees. Illegal immigration doesn’t follow that process.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 1:24 am to BasedAF
The worst part is that he wasn't a refugee.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 1:30 am to Squirrelmeister
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There was no Roman law that Roman citizens had to travel to the site of one ancestor a thousand years ago in order to be counted. Stop being an idiot.
Correct. It was a decree of Caesar Augustus. And no, it's not the only time this was done.
The atheists on this board are so thoroughly stupid. It's hilarious to see y'all try to engage in discussion.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 4:19 am to BasedAF
Yes it’s true he was a political refugee
The king wanted his death
And after the king died he was sent back home
The king wanted his death
And after the king died he was sent back home
Posted on 12/23/24 at 4:40 am to BasedAF
Just look at the crime in countries like Germany, Spain, England, etc. since they've thrown out the welcome mat to immigrants. Sure, some are law abiding. but most are only problems waiting to happen. Appears most of the problems are with Muslims!
Posted on 12/23/24 at 5:28 am to BasedAF
Catholic and Methodist NGO’s are absolutely responsible for aiding and abetting Illegal Immigrants to come here. If you belong to one of these and donate money you are funding it.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 5:54 am to Squirrelmeister
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All we have are the gospels
Stopped reading here. This is absolutely false.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 5:57 am to Revelator
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He wasn’t a refugee
Their argument is that LBJ (little baby Jesus) fled from Herrod into Egypt...
Because it's EXACTLY the same as a violent, tat-covered 20 y.o. coming here, biggot!
Posted on 12/23/24 at 6:10 am to BasedAF
quote:The commercial is the "brainchild" of Lerma/, an ad firm founded by Pedro Lerma. Lerma is heavily invested in multicultural and anti-gun themes. Though he hides political affiliations, everything he promotes screams Prog. Given the bent of commercials over the last few years, he's made a recent fortune.
Jesus Was a Refugee Commercial
shite libs trying to pull on heart strings
It's unclear whether the Servant Foundation, heavily financed by Hobby Lobby, first approached Lerma about the "He gets us" commercials or vice versa. Regardless, Servant (nonprofit) / Hobby Lobby had taken PR hits for pro-family-values stances, deemed by Progs as anti-gay. So the calculation was the left would be more forgiving given the "He get us" immigrant messaging. Of course the left is anything but forgiving. Redemption is not part of the Prog spectrum. So the controversial commercials only served to increase heat on Hobby Lobby.
When Servant / Hobby Lobby took hits with minimal praise for their commercials, they helped create a new nonprofit sponsor, whom they fund, called Come Near. "Come Near" took full ownership of the "He gets us" commercial line. Now Servant / Hobby Lobby claim disassociation from the "He gets us" theme, though it's almost certain they remain the major funders.
So it's a toxic combination of "shite libs" and "shite for brains" "conservatives"
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 6:12 am
Posted on 12/23/24 at 6:27 am to Squirrelmeister
quote:... a categorization exclusive of Squirrelmeister.
It’s so obvious to anyone with a brain
Here is an attempt to educate the uneducable.
First off within a few years of Jesus' death, there were large numbers of practicing Christians ... obviously not something which would have occurred in the absence of a real person. But we also have historians writings.
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Historian Flavius Josephus wrote one of the earliest non-biblical accounts of Jesus.
The first-century Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, who according to Ehrman “is far and away our best source of information about first-century Palestine,” twice mentions Jesus in Jewish Antiquities, his massive 20-volume history of the Jewish people that was written around 93 A.D.
Thought to have been born a few years after the crucifixion of Jesus around A.D. 37, Josephus was a well-connected aristocrat and military leader in Palestine who served as a commander in Galilee during the first Jewish Revolt against Rome between 66 and 70. Although Josephus was not a follower of Jesus, “he was around when the early church was getting started, so he knew people who had seen and heard Jesus,” Mykytiuk says.
In one passage of Jewish Antiquities that recounts an unlawful execution, Josephus identifies the victim, James, as the “brother of Jesus-who-is-called-Messiah.” While few scholars doubt the short account’s authenticity, says Mykytiuk, more debate surrounds Josephus’s lengthier passage about Jesus, known as the “Testimonium Flavianum,” which describes a man “who did surprising deeds” and was condemned to be crucified by Pilate. Mykytiuk agrees with most scholars that Christian scribes modified portions of the passage but did not insert it wholesale into the text.
Tacitus connects Jesus to his execution by Pontius Pilate.
Another account of Jesus appears in Annals of Imperial Rome, a first-century history of the Roman Empire written around A.D. 116 by the Roman senator and historian Tacitus. In chronicling the burning of Rome in A.D. 64, Tacitus mentions that Emperor Nero falsely blamed “the persons commonly called Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius.”
As a Roman historian, Tacitus did not have any Christian biases in his discussion of the persecution of Christians by Nero, says Ehrman. “Just about everything he says coincides—from a completely different point of view, by a Roman author disdainful of Christians and their superstition—with what the New Testament itself says: Jesus was executed by the governor of Judea, Pontius Pilate, for crimes against the state, and a religious movement of his followers sprang up in his wake.”
“When Tacitus wrote history, if he considered the information not entirely reliable, he normally wrote some indication of that for his readers,” Mykytiuk says in vouching for the historical value of the passage. “There is no such indication of potential error in the passage that mentions Christus.”
Additional Roman texts reference Jesus.
Shortly before Tacitus penned his account of Jesus, Roman governor Pliny the Younger wrote to Emperor Trajan that early Christians would “sing hymns to Christ as to a god.” Some scholars also believe Roman historian Suetonius references Jesus in noting that Emperor Claudius had expelled Jews from Rome who “were making constant disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus.”
Ehrman says this collection of snippets from non-Christian sources may not impart much information about the life of Jesus, “but it is useful for realizing that Jesus was known by historians who had reason to look into the matter. No one thought he was made up.”
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This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 6:28 am
Posted on 12/23/24 at 6:28 am to Squirrelmeister
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Squirrelmeister
Our little rainbow fellow is back flicking boogers at God.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 6:32 am to BasedAF
Next will be Jesus only worked from home.
Happy Carpenters Day
Happy Carpenters Day
Posted on 12/23/24 at 6:34 am to BasedAF
I'm not religious one bit -- so, Jesus was trying to get into a country illegally? When did this happen?
If we go by the Bible, we see he went to Egypt though his parents brought him. Did they go to Egypt illegally? I seriously doubt it. Maybe he made other trips but the Bible doesn't say and there's no other record of it. So, sounds like a lot of made up shite to me.
Look, just come into this country legally, obey the law while you're here, leave if you're told to. If you have a very good reason to not go back, go legally to a lawyer and see what your options are to stay. It's not hard.
Obey the law. I was told exactly the same when I've gone to Europe or Central America for work. It's not difficult to do the right thing.
If we go by the Bible, we see he went to Egypt though his parents brought him. Did they go to Egypt illegally? I seriously doubt it. Maybe he made other trips but the Bible doesn't say and there's no other record of it. So, sounds like a lot of made up shite to me.
Look, just come into this country legally, obey the law while you're here, leave if you're told to. If you have a very good reason to not go back, go legally to a lawyer and see what your options are to stay. It's not hard.
Obey the law. I was told exactly the same when I've gone to Europe or Central America for work. It's not difficult to do the right thing.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 6:35 am to themunch
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Next will be Jesus only worked from home.
I'm a big proponent of WFH where/when appropriate but this is funny
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:11 am to imjustafatkid
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Correct. It was a decree of Caesar Augustus. And no, it's not the only time this was done.
The Romans have great records of the censuses they took, and they didn’t record any taken in Palestine around this time.
What makes you think “Luke’s” story is accurate compared with say “Matthew”? Anyone with google or access to a library can confirm King Herod died about 10 years before Quirinius became governor of Syria. Why would you disbelieve in Matthew’s story but believe Luke?
Ask yourself if Luke’s account makes sense. If you were going to take a census, because you want to count everyone accurately, would you want everyone to stay where they live so they can be counted, or would you like everyone to pick one specific random ancestor from a thousand years ago (of the millions of ancestors they’d have) and pack up and travel to another part of the empire? Would that make counting people, the very point of the census (that didn’t happen) easier?
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The atheists on this board are so thoroughly stupid.
I think this is an example of what we call someone being unconsciously incompetent.
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It's hilarious to see y'all try to engage in discussion.
I just asked you four individual questions. Do you think you can answer all four?
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:14 am to This GUN for HIRE
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Stopped reading here. This is absolutely false.
All we really have actually is the gospel of Mark. Every other source apologists claim to have are all based on the gospel of Mark. We do not have any other independent accounts.
And if we go further, Mark is just copying and plagiarizing Paul’s epistles and recreating stories of Elijah, Elisha, Yom Kippur, and other Old Testament myths.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:32 am to NC_Tigah
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First off within a few years of Jesus' death, there were large numbers of practicing Christians ... obviously not something which would have occurred in the absence of a real person.
There was a sect of Egyptians who believed in Osiris as their savior deity. They believed he donned a body of human flesh, descended from the highest heaven, was killed in the lowest heaven just below the moon, was resurrected 3 days later, and through belief in his atonement of sins the followers would have everlasting life. Sound familiar?
It gets better. There were gospels of Osiris walking around Egypt doing miracles and helping people as a Pharaoh. We have letters of these followers of Osiris who wrote to their brethren that the gospel accounts of an earthly Osiris were cleverly crafted myths meant as tools for conversion of uneducated persons. The priests of their religion knew the truth that none of the stuff on earth was real and the “real” Osiris died and was resurrected in heaven. This might not sound familiar to you but only because you are uneducated. You have the same access to knowledge as I do. You just have to read.
There is a gospel account that parallels the Osiris story… it’s called the “Ascension of Isaiah” and it can be bought on Amazon for a few bucks. It is a story about Jesus found in Nag Hammadi Egypt dating back 2000 years written in Coptic. Fragments were also found later in Latin, Greek, Slavonic, and Syriac spread throughout the empire. If you read the ascension and then compare it to Paul’s epistles, you’d see they are an exact match.
Paul believed Jesus was crucified in heaven by the “archons of this age” which were evil angels in heaven. Paul’s letters specifically rebuke the idea of Romans killing Jesus. Paul says the heavenly bad guys killed Jesus. See 1 Corinthians 2 and Ephesians 6:12.
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Historian Flavius Josephus
The mentions of Jesus are well known to be Christian forgeries of the late second century, most likely by Eusebius.
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Tacitus
Not a firsthand account. He’s writing nearly 100 years after the alleged crucifixion of Jesus.
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Pliny the Younger wrote to Emperor Trajan
Not a firsthand account. They are just talking about the existence of Christians and trying to figure out their beliefs.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:35 am to Squirrelmeister
Give it up. The smut you read and cite makes you look as stupid as you sound.
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