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re: JD Vance explains the Thomas Massie issue.

Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:12 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297121 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:12 am to
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Then you have completely naive and childish outlook on the reality of the inner workings of politics.



So does MAGA. Y'all attack Republicans far more than you do Democrats. Its pretty telling...
Posted by TigerAllNightLong
Member since Jul 2023
994 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:14 am to
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earnest libertarianism


Troll. No way anyone believes this.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43960 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:18 am to
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Massie is a conservative who has conservative views. He doesn't have the wrong view on issues, the republican party does because they constantly abandon conservative values due to all the neocon socialists.


Trump endorses Lindsey Graham. Primaries Thomas Massie. That’s all you need to know.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109722 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:19 am to
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Politics is not a team sport.


I mean, like it or not, yeah it kinda is.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
12576 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:20 am to
You voted for Kamala
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466602 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:21 am to
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Trump endorses Lindsey Graham. Primaries Thomas Massie. That’s all you need to know.


/thread
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125514 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:22 am to
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Watching the MAGA movement beat out Massie’s brand of earnest libertarianism is so depressing.


Massie stopped being an earnest libertarian and turned into a whiny bitch. I supported his earnest libertarianism. That’s not what he’s doing now.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22728 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:27 am to
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yet Thomas will be running for his ninth term next year.

Based on a post below, he should be running for his sixth term.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10323 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:28 am to
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So does MAGA. Y'all attack Republicans far more than you do Democrats. Its pretty telling...


To be clear, Trump and his associates are far from perfect. His policies and administration leave a lot to be desired. I’m not backing away from that. But at the end of the day, you have to present some form of a united front to stand a chance against the left and their globalists/marxist cohorts.

I personally don’t see a ton of value and spending a lot of time on the enemy, when you can’t even get your own coalition organized and working together. And the Republicans have a long history of being their own worst enemy and sabotaging any efforts to move the ball down field. Whether that be from the liberal RINO flank, the NeoCon flank, or the libertarian flank.

At some point, the Republicans have to figure out how to accept some trade off to focus on the bigger picture, while continuing to chip away at other issues.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14050 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:31 am to
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Massie’s brand of Idealism




Fify

He isn’t smart, he isn’t honest, and hes completely ineffective at actually achieving anything at all with his seat in congress. Which means the onky thing hes accomplishing is holding on to power and enriching himself like everyone else up there. Watching retards clap like seals for him is far more depressing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297121 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:32 am to
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At some point, the Republicans have to figure out how to accept some trade off


Yes, which makes one wonder why MAGA and Trump in particular is trying his best to run off as much Republican support as possible.

Trumps war on those more conservative than him is self induced damage.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466602 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:32 am to
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He isn’t smart,


Dunning Kruger Effect in real time
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14050 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:33 am to
100% he overestimates himself.
Posted by Arkaea79
Member since Sep 2022
968 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:49 am to
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earnest libertarianism


Earnest "libertarianism" is .. always vote WITH dems, but trash Republicans?


Ok.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297121 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:51 am to
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Earnest "libertarianism" is .. always vote WITH dems, but trash Republicans?


The only people trashing Republicans are the Democrats and MAGA.

And yall wonder why you cant get congressional support..
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93712 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:51 am to
Masshole just needs to retire to his farm so he can cry on twitter like all the other dems
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297121 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 7:52 am to
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He isn’t smart, he isn’t honest,
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62604 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 8:06 am to
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Watching the MAGA movement beat out Massie’s brand of earnest libertarianism is so depressing.
MAGA has fully been taken over by the GOPE. Fell faster than the Tea Party.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6159 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 8:19 am to
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Watching the MAGA movement beat out Massie’s brand of earnest libertarianism is so depressing.


Watching massie, time and time again talk a lot, do nothing and hinder progress all in the names of some higher calling that results in democrats gaining the advantage is depressing.

The real question is what has massie accomplished in his tenure in congress? What major libertarian legislations has he passed that has made the country better.

I love the whole leave people alone and shrink government movement, but this government grew to its size of 150 years.

Just one example:

He pushes this every session - Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act (H.R. 1846). The Fed is still there. Should we blame him? He would never hear of it.

But Trump wants control the Fed to do what is best for America. Massie will not have it.

Trump's approach is more realistic and still difficult, But Massie is an all or nothing guy and end up with nothing all the time. Trump will at least move the needle in the right direction and maybe begin the process that results in the Fed going away or shrinking its power.

Massie is an engineer. Trump is a businessman deal maker - closer if you will.

Massie is the expert on the Fed?
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
12893 posts
Posted on 10/30/25 at 8:27 am to
Let Kentucky figure it out.

If he and Rand are voting with dems on idea's, that's an issue. If they are voting with dems to poke Trump, that's an even bigger issue.

I'm about, 75% with Trump on things. I voted for most of the things he's doing.

MAGA won, we all have to deal with it.
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