re: JD Vance believes that Joe Rogan & a lot on this website are wrong about deportations

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It's widely agreed among politicians on both sides, across multiple areas of the cabinet, and the media, that there have been 2-2.5 million people self-deport since early last year.

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It's about 1.5 million for the fiscal year, which is just a touch above the norm. It's normal for 3-5% of illegals to go back to their home country in a given year. It's how it works for those here (truly) to work seasonally or temporarily. In other words, the self-deportations are standard business and are not evidence of some super duper deportation program.

The reality is that when you remove self-deportations and turnbacks at the border (legit awesome job by Trump) from the numbers, Trump deported about 350,000 in calendar year 2025. And ICE spent about $12 billion doing it, not including any of the additional $80 billion spend the big beautiful bill provides. There are now about 22,000 ICE agents/admin. So let's do the math - we're averaging about 1 deportation per ICE employee per month, and it's costing us over $30K per deportation.

So far, Trump has failed us on deportations and yeah, I recognize whackjobs on the Left are obstructing everywhere they can - but FFS, we could have offered each illegal $10K to get the frick out and would have seen shite tons more gone, and saved ourselves about $20K per deportation.