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re: Jason Whitlock gives his opinion on what Juneteenth is about.

Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:28 am to
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:28 am to
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But it does not celebrate just the end of slavery in Texas. Its original (and still official) name in Texas was Emancipation Day, and it has expanded to a celebration of the end of slavery generally. The Proclamation was signed on January-1, so that date was already taken for a national holiday. Taking June-19 (from Texas) for the celebration was practical because millions of people were already commemorating essentially the same concept ("Emancipation") on that date. Yes, it is unfortunate that it took a PoS like George Floyd to bring the issue to the forefront.


I think DisplacedBuckeye made a great point whether he intended to or not. Memorial Day was the original inclusive and diverse celebration of the end of slavery and for honoring those who died to end slavery. Rather than recognizing another national holiday with Juneteenth the American people should have been reminded/educated about the original meaning of Memorial Day and going forward make Memorial Day the celebration for not only those who have gave all for the nation but also the end of slavery.
Posted by BigTx
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:38 am to
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going forward make Memorial Day the celebration for not only those who have gave all for the nation but also the end of slavery.


I’m sure there would have been plenty that would have had a problem with this proposal also. You can’t win.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:55 am to
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Educate yourself
Lol. I'm not letting you off for lazy posting.

Show me the northern states that banned slavery after June 19, 1865.

Good Lord, slavery remained legal through the entire Civil War in the Slave States that did not secede (e.g. Maryland). It remained legal AFTER the war, until ratification of the 13th.

Maryland's 3rd state constitution banned slavery on November 1, 1864.

Again I will ask, show me the northern state that banned slavery after June 19th, 1865.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:00 pm to
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I think DisplacedBuckeye made a great point whether he intended to or not. Memorial Day was the original inclusive and diverse celebration of the end of slavery and for honoring those who died to end slavery. Rather than recognizing another national holiday with Juneteenth the American people should have been reminded/educated about the original meaning of Memorial Day and going forward make Memorial Day the celebration for not only those who have gave all for the nation but also the end of slavery


I think you are explicitly adding that Memorial Day celebrates the end of slavery.
That couldn't be further from the truth.

It celebrates soldiers who gave their lives for our country. That includes the revolutionary War, War of 1812, and civil war. And its inclusion includes The Great War, World War II, Korean and Vietnam conflicts, Iraq and Afghanistan.

There is no subliminal celebration for the end of slavery. Have you been to a Memorial Day veneration? Are you aware of any of the Memorial Day etiquette and traditions? None of them reference slavery.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:07 pm to
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The last slaves in Texas. There was still slavery in some union states.
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Link?
If this is a serious question, I have deep concerns for whatever educational institution allowed you to graduate.


shite.

You reference Maryland as having slaves after the Civil War but a simple Google search proves they legally ended slavery November 1, 1864.

If your elite education can't Google, I feel sorry that your family has to live with such a pompous a-hole.

Tell me with your elite education what northern states had slavery after 6/19/1865?
Posted by dat yat
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:44 pm to
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You reference Maryland as having slaves after the Civil War but a simple Google search proves they legally ended slavery November 1, 1864.

If your elite education can't Google, I feel sorry that your family has to live with such a pompous a-hole.

Tell me with your elite education what northern states had slavery after 6/19/1865?




Kentucky and Delaware didn't end slavery until the 13th amendment was ratified on December 6, 1865 and they were the last two holdouts. Why not celebrate the end of Slavery on then?

This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 12:47 pm
Posted by riverdiver
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Member since May 2022
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 2:36 pm to
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I listened from the 11:00 mark and what he is saying is absolute BS. Juneteenth was celebrated when I was a little kid and I'm 49 years old now (plus I grew up in Louisiana). Trust me.. if you grew up in the black church you recognized and celebrated Juneteenth. No there weren't big parades everywhere etc but it wasn't something that was taught and acknowledged.


Interesting.

I grew up in Charleston, SC. I’m 62, have had many life long black friends.

When the whole Juneteenth deal kicked up a few years ago they were just as clueless about it as everyone else.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 2:37 pm to
Thanks for the good info.

I've got no problem with 12/6.

6/19 sounds like a jubilee celebration.

12/6 sounds like "Jesus. Why are you so stubborn" celebration.
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