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re: Jason Whitlock gives his opinion on what Juneteenth is about.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:26 am to ABearsFanNMS
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:26 am to ABearsFanNMS
quote:He is belittling the notion that every group (whether Blacks or Republicans or otherwise) MUST be monolithic.
Just like and Republican who doesn't buy Trump bs is a RINO. See how we all think. We aren't much different after all.quote:
Okay please explain this statement because it makes no sense!
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:29 am to meansonny
quote:Good Lord, slavery remained legal through the entire Civil War in the Slave States that did not secede (e.g. Maryland). It remained legal AFTER the war, until ratification of the 13th.quote:Lol. I'm not letting you off for lazy posting.
Educate yourself
Show me the northern states that banned slavery after June 19, 1865.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:30 am to rhar61
quote:How would "Patriots Day" be different from Independence Day? I'm not familiar with New England traditions.
So when is Patriots Day going to be a national holiday? Is that too white?
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:33 am to BigTx
quote:Did these friends think that the slaves in Mississippi were magically freed when Lincoln issued an EO, to some greater extent than slaves in Texas?
I knew some blacks (not from TX) who felt we should be angry our ancestors were freed 2yrs too late rather than celebrate it.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:36 am to BigTx
quote:Did Lincoln exempt Texas slaves from the Emancipation Proclamation?quote:Yes, I do believe that. Thought it couldn’t be true, but just a bit of research shows it is true.
Do you believe any of that's accurate? That they were "freed later"?
They were "freed" to exactly the same extent as every OTHER slave held in Confederate territory ... not at all. An EO by a foreign leader did not change the law in the Confederacy. Military conquest did so.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:37 am to AggieHank86
quote:
So angry.
You have a half dozen angry posts just on this page alone.
You dominate this thread....
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Hi Roger.
RogerTheShrubber
Be honest. When you read my posts, you kick your dog, don't you?
Anger? Nah. But I did school one particularly-uneducated poster about the 13th Amendment.
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 9:42 am
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:56 am to AggieHank86
To articulate better, they felt anger was the more appropriate feeling instead of parades and barbecues.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 10:02 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Be honest. When you read my posts, you kick your dog, don't you?
to be angry, I would have to respect you. everyone knows youre a child sex apologist. Youre the only one who disagrees, and youre wrong.
Youre a shallow, materialistic lightweight. No one is angered by you.
Your obfuscation and protection of child rapists though clearly point that you have major mental crisis, I kind of feel sorry for your frail little body.
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 10:04 am
Posted on 6/23/23 at 10:03 am to BigTx
I'm not attacking you, but your friends just don't seem very smart.
They think that Texas Blacks should be more angry about slavery that Mississippi Blacks, because Texas was at the arse-end of the Confederacy, and it took the Yankees longer to conquer and occupy it and to then enforce the Emancipation Proclamation?
They think that Texas Blacks should be more angry about slavery that Mississippi Blacks, because Texas was at the arse-end of the Confederacy, and it took the Yankees longer to conquer and occupy it and to then enforce the Emancipation Proclamation?
Posted on 6/23/23 at 10:05 am to BigTx
quote:
To articulate better, they felt anger was the more appropriate feeling instead of parades and barbecues.
Is anyone stopping you from celebrating?
Posted on 6/23/23 at 10:15 am to CoachDon
quote:
Easy fella....
Normally, when someone posts on another "fellas" post, it's directed at them.
Cornyn is a cuck.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 10:34 am to AggieHank86
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You should listen to what Candace Owens calls ... Juneteenth. "Ghetto and made up"
quote:
Born in NYC and raised in Connecticut.
Not really surprising that she was unfamiliar with 150 years of Texas tradition.
Just bc it's a Texas tradition doesn't mean it should be a federal holiday.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 10:35 am to Wtodd
quote:
Just bc it's a Texas tradition doesn't mean it should be a federal holiday.
I'm fine with black people celebrating.
Need to stop the white women from hijacking their movement though.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 10:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
I'm fine with black people celebrating.
They should celebrate it the same way St. Patrick's Day or Cinco De Mayo is celebrated and neither one of these are fed holidays.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 10:44 am to Wtodd
quote:St. Patrick's Day is a minor religious holiday that has evolved into a celebration of Irish culture and (basically) and excuse to drink to excess.quote:They should celebrate it the same way St. Patrick's Day or Cinco De Mayo is celebrated and neither one of these are fed holidays.
I'm fine with black people celebrating.
Cinco de Mayo is minor holiday in Mexico that got promoted HERE to sell Mexican beer and was chosen because it is easier to pronounce than "Diez y seis de Septiembre."
Emancipation Day (Juneteenth) commemorates OUR country ending centuries of legal human chattel slavery.
I see some differences.
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 10:45 am
Posted on 6/23/23 at 10:45 am to Wtodd
quote:
They should celebrate it the same way St. Patrick's Day or Cinco De Mayo is celebrated and neither one of these are fed holidays
Most holidays should be like this. We have too many as it is.
Just let black folks off work to celebrate if they choose.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 10:47 am to AggieHank86
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Born in NYC and raised in Connecticut.
Not really surprising that she was unfamiliar with 150 years of Texas tradition.
I think you make the argument/point of why so many Americans, including black Americans, either never heard of Juneteenth or didn't celebrate Juneteenth.....because it was primarily a Texas thing.
DisplacedBuckeye had the best post on Juneteenth in another thread where he posted an image of a plaque that commemorates the first Memorial Day celebration, a celebration of the end of the Civil War and the end of slavery. According to the inscription on the plaque that celebration in 1865 was inclusive and diverse.
I think in a purely historical context Memorial Day should be the true celebration and honoring of those who died to save the Union and end slavery. To make Juneteenth a national holiday to celebrate the official end of slavery in TX is giving too much historical weight to the delay in getting the message to every slave owner in TX to free their slaves.
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 10:52 am
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:16 am to Bass Tiger
quote:But it does not celebrate just the end of slavery in Texas. Its original (and still official) name in Texas was Emancipation Day, and it has expanded to a celebration of the end of slavery generally.
To make Juneteenth a national holiday to celebrate the official end of slavery in TX is giving too much historical weight to the delay in getting the message to every slave owner in TX to free their slaves.
The Proclamation was signed on January-1, so that date was already taken for a national holiday. Taking June-19 (from Texas) for the celebration was practical because millions of people were already commemorating essentially the same concept ("Emancipation") on that date.
Yes, it is unfortunate that it took a PoS like George Floyd to bring the issue to the forefront.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:22 am to Bass Tiger
Nobody can pander quite like Jason Whitlock. He certainly knows his audience well.
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