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I've criticized the U.S. Healthcare system for being too expensive
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:26 am
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:26 am
But I'm taking a look around and most of these Euro countries seem to have much higher death rates
Italy
Spain
Germany
Belgium
France
Switzerland
UK
I haven't gone through all of them and of course the final outcomes are unknown but it does appear that we have a much better capacity to deal with an issue like this than any of those countries at this point.
Italy
Spain
Germany
Belgium
France
Switzerland
UK
I haven't gone through all of them and of course the final outcomes are unknown but it does appear that we have a much better capacity to deal with an issue like this than any of those countries at this point.
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:27 am to Powerman
quote:
I haven't gone through all of them and of course the final outcomes are unknown but it does appear that we have a much better capacity to deal with an issue like this than any of those countries at this point.
Funny how not nationalizing your healthcare works that way
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:28 am to Powerman
i mean, of course we have the best healthcare system. you fell into the media trap my friend. Why do you think all the people in those countries come HERE for care if they can?
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:28 am to Wtodd
quote:
Funny how not nationalizing your healthcare works that way
terrifying how many people in this country want nationalized healthcare...
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:29 am to Powerman
In fairness, there are a lot of differences.
- Smoking rates
- ratio of old to young
- proximity and social interaction
One thign that makes me curious: I wonder if the European 'healthy' lifestyle of biking, being in more crowded cities with higher rates of public transit use, less time in cars, less spacious homes, contributes significantly to virus spread.
We might end up not seeing much transmission because Americans are more independent and use less public transit.
- Smoking rates
- ratio of old to young
- proximity and social interaction
One thign that makes me curious: I wonder if the European 'healthy' lifestyle of biking, being in more crowded cities with higher rates of public transit use, less time in cars, less spacious homes, contributes significantly to virus spread.
We might end up not seeing much transmission because Americans are more independent and use less public transit.
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:29 am to Powerman
quote:
I haven't gone through all of them and of course the final outcomes are unknown but it does appear that we have a much better capacity to deal with an issue like this than any of those countries at this point.
Good
Fast(available)
Cheap
Pick two.....and, if you try to pick 3, you just might end up with 1.
Everywhere else in the world has tried to pick 3...…….and ended up with Cheap
We picked 2.
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:30 am to Powerman
And then remember how the U.S. has paid for 100% of their national security for 70 years!!!!
The US military is the only reason Europe was able to regain their affluence after WW2.
The US is the reason communist shite countries have access to cheap drugs as the American people subsidize it.
People have grown way too comfortable with the US holding up the world.
Just look at our budgets, money going all over the place on earth on top of the 24/7/365 military presence to secure trade routes between countries who despise each other.
The US military is the only reason Europe was able to regain their affluence after WW2.
The US is the reason communist shite countries have access to cheap drugs as the American people subsidize it.
People have grown way too comfortable with the US holding up the world.
Just look at our budgets, money going all over the place on earth on top of the 24/7/365 military presence to secure trade routes between countries who despise each other.
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:30 am to geauxtigers87
I do think we could still make some improvements to cost
Charging people 300 dollars for a bag of saline and shite like that is what's absurd
Or the surging price of insulin which has been around forever
So I still have my criticisms but we do seem better equipped to handle a crisis
Charging people 300 dollars for a bag of saline and shite like that is what's absurd
Or the surging price of insulin which has been around forever
So I still have my criticisms but we do seem better equipped to handle a crisis
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:30 am to The Maj
Yep socialized medicine seems great when you are young and healthy but for the older population it’s care rationing. Those countries won’t dump endless funds into keeping geriatrics alive.
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:30 am to Powerman
Healthcare is a right.
Right up until the point you are deemed 'non-essential'.
Right up until the point you are deemed 'non-essential'.
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:30 am to cokebottleag
quote:You are likely correct that the higher rate of compact living can't be helping.
One thign that makes me curious: I wonder if the European 'healthy' lifestyle of biking, being in more crowded cities with higher rates of public transit use, less time in cars, less spacious homes, contributes significantly to virus spread.
Suburbs for the win!!!
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:30 am to ShortyRob
quote:
Good
Fast(available)
Cheap
Something I used to tell my clients all the time. Do you want us to do it fast, cheap or right?
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:31 am to Powerman
our healthcare is some of the best in the world and this will be proven after the virus has run its course
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:31 am to cokebottleag
quote:I see that and raise you diabetes and obesity
- Smoking rates
- ratio of old to young
- proximity and social interaction
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:31 am to The Maj
quote:
terrifying how many people in this country want nationalized healthcare...
Ain't that the truth
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:32 am to Powerman
you need a coat?
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:32 am to Powerman
I don't disagree but I'll take our own system over any other. Get what you pay for so to speak
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:32 am to tigerfoot
quote:
I see that and raise you diabetes and obesity
Not really the fault of the healthcare system
That's on the citizenry
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:32 am to Powerman
quote:But impossible to avoid.
Charging people 300 dollars for a bag of saline and shite like that is what's absurd
Think of it this way.
Imagine being a car dealer...…..only, while you didn't have to provide a car to every schmo, you DID have to provide cars to people who desperately needed one, even if they couldn't afford it.
How much are your cars going to sell for to the people that CAN buy them?
Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:34 am to ShortyRob
quote:
Imagine being a car dealer...…..only, while you didn't have to provide a car to every schmo, you DID have to provide cars to people who desperately needed one, even if they couldn't afford it.
How much are your cars going to sell for to the people that CAN buy them?
Probably a poor analogy because the broke MF is the one that's going to over pay for it
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