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re: I've been seeing a lot of why do we get to chose...why do we intervene...why do we
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:53 pm to Nosevens
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:53 pm to Nosevens
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Conflating things as you do is exactly like what you say you are against. Things aren’t as simple as we live free in our own world as the saying goes freedom is not free
It's not freedom if the government is stealing from you to carry out the agenda of others. Where is my freedom to not send money to foreign countries every fricking year?
Maybe I don't want to pay money for people to live off welfare. Maybe I don't want to pay money for your kids education. Maybe I don't want to pay for military parades.
This is why democracy sucks. It's just tyranny of the majority. And you gaslight me to say it's freedom. No, it's fricking slavery.

This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 6/19/25 at 6:32 am to 3down10
First of all we don’t live in a democracy where it’s the tyranny of the majority rules. Secondly it would be fantastic to not see being heavily taxed and no money & lives spent in wars or no welfare in fraudulent ways but utopia exists after the life on earth and we live in a world where people are not always good. The only thing that we can do is hopefully vote out scoundrels in politics that actually pass laws on these very things that makes taxes high. But I’d rather live with America’s rules than any country’s rules.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 7:02 am to LSUbest
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People that will turn the other way don't deserve to live in my neighborhood.
There’s a difference between policing things in your own neighborhood and somewhere on the other side of the world.
Good news for you is we have plenty of neighborhoods in this country that turn blind eye to those kinds of offenses. You can start today.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 7:20 am to LSUbest
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Why should a man interfere when a woman is getting curb stomped across the street?
When are we going back to Afghanistan, friend?
You literally described the Taliban
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The Taliban’s war against girls and women has intensified. Deprived of education, work and even the opportunity to walk in parks or visit public baths, half of Afghanistan’s population live especially shrunken and fearful lives. The Taliban’s rule is not merely a cruel and humiliating blow to their rights and dignity, but an existential threat. In a May report, the UN special rapporteur on human rights in Afghanistan, Richard Bennett, quoted one woman: “I was the breadwinner and now [I] have no job, no income and my children are asking for food, I have no choice but to consider suicide.”
The Taliban have already murdered lawyers, activists, students, police and other women, as well as subjecting them to torture and abuse. Concerns that they will resume public stonings persist. But there are many other ways to take women’s lives. Remove their livelihoods and they (and their children) starve. Force them into dependency on abusive men, with no escape, and they will be killed. Reduce access to healthcare and they die preventable deaths. Snatch away all hope and some will conclude that there is no way to go on.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 7:24 am to LSUbest
quote:better question
Why should a man interfere when a woman is getting curb stomped across the street?
why should a man interfere when two thugs on the other side of town who have been getting into fistfights for decades decide to start using knives
Posted on 6/19/25 at 12:39 pm to Nosevens
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First of all we don’t live in a democracy where it’s the tyranny of the majority rules.
Yes we do. The republic has been dead since the civil war, even more so after WW2 when the empire began. States rights are constantly trampled on, and anytime someone mentions the 9th or 10th amendment people ignorantly think the topic is about slavery.
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Secondly it would be fantastic to not see being heavily taxed and no money & lives spent in wars or no welfare in fraudulent ways but utopia exists after the life on earth and we live in a world where people are not always good.
Taxes are theft, and people who think it's the price of a civilized society are indoctrinated. We didn't have income tax before 1913, and yet we still had a military, roads, healthcare and everything else.
You have NO RIGHT to other peoples property. END OF STORY. You can NOT justify it ever. The only thing you do is support the people who commit the theft. You are breaking the commandments by coveting your neighbors house/property.
And I'm sorry to tell you, but you won't be having life after earth. You are failing the test. You all constantly support and use government to break the commandments and think you're safe because of a human sacrifice(or worse). You aren't, taxi cab Jesus is a lie, you have to actually do it. The "path" is a real thing and you are not following it. You will not end up at the destination you think you will.
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he only thing that we can do is hopefully vote out scoundrels in politics that actually pass laws on these very things that makes taxes high. But I’d rather live with America’s rules than any country’s rules.
You'll never vote them out. Mostly because you support them. You are happy with them being in power and fear a world without them.
The same people who cry for politicians to be held accountable will then turn around and hate on Tucker for actually being tough on them.
In short, you're completely full of shite. Your actions are terrible, and the rotten fruit you see in the world today is from the tree you support.
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 6/19/25 at 12:45 pm to 3down10
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That's bullshite. You don't need to have over 100 bases around the world while going trillions of dollars into fake debt and turning country after country into a shithole in order to be safe.
Especially considering our borders are wide open and a host of other problems going on at home.
In reality, the US is the military arm of the global elite and we are the slaves who pay for it. Our reward is more inflation, a completely neglect of instruction and the needs at home. A society that is drawn against each other on social issues and grouped up like it's team sports, yet they don't realize they are all playing the same game.
If you want a preview of what you can expect in the future, study the fall of Rome since we seem to follow it step by step.
Solid post homie. Upvote earned and given.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 1:44 pm to 3down10
Are you correct about not having an income tax before 1920, yes but there were taxes on property that paid that military, roads but there was no healthcare that was supplied to people or much anything else and those property taxes were significant in that time. There were tariffs that paid federal government. Did you work or die hungry, yes mostly. Did we have a society of few haves and a bunch of have nots, most definitely as the more affluent ones indentured many or controlled labor that kept people poor and ignorant. World War 1 & 2 was mostly supported by people willing to escape poverty stricken areas that willingly left home as a chance to fight seemed like a better way. Your understanding of Commandments, biblical guidance and society are so convoluted that you can’t make a bit of sensible judgments or arguments. You sound more like a cultist anti American with a twisted view of what you consider religion
Posted on 6/19/25 at 2:07 pm to Nosevens
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Are you correct about not having an income tax before 1920, yes but there were taxes on property that paid that military, roads but there was no healthcare that was supplied to people or much anything else and those property taxes were significant in that time. There were tariffs that paid federal government. Did you work or die hungry, yes mostly. Did we have a society of few haves and a bunch of have nots, most definitely as the more affluent ones indentured many or controlled labor that kept people poor and ignorant.
The government does not provide anything, so your claims that we suddenly have these things because of government and taxes is just false. The only thing the government can do is take from 1 person and give it to another by the threat of deadly force, aka armed robbery.
Social security is a scam. Once again stealing from younger people to pay for the elder by threat of deadly force, aka armed robbery.
What you are saying is - I think it's ok to rob people and take their wealth by deadly force as long as you pretend it's for a good cause. However, if it really was a good cause, people would just donate and volunteer.
Do you have a list of other things you believe it's ok to rob people for?
Things like the labor movement happened because of people, not the government. Henry Ford treated his factory employees well for example. Which was largely in part to retain the labor.
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World War 1 & 2 was mostly supported by people willing to escape poverty stricken areas that willingly left home as a chance to fight seemed like a better way.
I'm not sure what you are talking about here.
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Your understanding of Commandments, biblical guidance and society are so convoluted that you can’t make a bit of sensible judgments or arguments. You sound more like a cultist anti American with a twisted view of what you consider religion
Or you've been gaslighted so far and/or are so lazy you refuse to look at the actual actions, and don't know how to respond when someone accurately points out the details of what you really support. As I said, you actively support breaking the commandments as long as government does it for you. No different than those who had Jesus killed by his government thinking it made them innocent, down to the guy who did it because it was his job.
Tell me how what you are doing is not stealing from others? Lay it out in simple terms for me. Explain to me why you serve the beast, I am curious.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 2:16 pm to 3down10
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Taxes are theft, and people who think it's the price of a civilized society are indoctrinated. We didn't have income tax before 1913, and yet we still had a military, roads, healthcare and everything else.
Cause the cost and quality of these things pre-1913 compared to today is the same. Look I wish we lived in a world too where everything was free and rainbows shot out of unicorn asses but we don't.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 2:18 pm to LARancher1991
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Cause the cost and quality of these things pre-1913 compared to today is the same. Look I wish we lived in a world too where everything was free and rainbows shot out of unicorn asses but we don't.
What the frick are you talking about?
You need to learn where the value of a dollar comes from. The quality of products today are terrible compared to even 40 years ago.
And as for your little bullshite about unicorns, let me remind you that YOU are the one who wants government to treat you like a child, not me.
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 6/19/25 at 2:22 pm to 3down10
Market factors, economic health, trade policies, and other factors determine the value of a dollar. But I'm guessing that's not what you meant.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 2:30 pm to 3down10
And yet you repeat the same tripe thinking that you think government can provide as you stated military, toads healthcare and many other things without a tax, then go on to say that government doesn’t provide. Government doesn’t make anything would be a better way to answer as it definitely provides. Most importantly the founders of our country and form of government provided the Constitution which is stretched for sure by people with biased opinions, we are human beings after all. You can go on with your tangential thinking but you have actually argued against yourself on different topics. Might want to write down your thoughts on index cards to keep your talking points straight
Posted on 6/19/25 at 2:31 pm to LARancher1991
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Market factors, economic health, trade policies, and other factors determine the value of a dollar. But I'm guessing that's not what you meant.
Holy fricking indoctrination.
What you just said is how the dollar values against other central bank currencies in the world. Of which are all also highly inflated because governments stealing the wealth of their citizens is a global thing, and when any country tries to end it they are taken out. It's economic slavery.
I'm talking about how money actually works. A good primer is "I want the Earth plus 5%". You can find it, or just watch this 45 minute video.
Then tell me how money gets it's value.
Do you know why usury(interest) is forbidden by some religions?
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 6/19/25 at 2:36 pm to Nosevens
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And yet you repeat the same tripe thinking that you think government can provide as you stated military, toads healthcare and many other things without a tax, then go on to say that government doesn’t provide. Government doesn’t make anything would be a better way to answer as it definitely provides. Most importantly the founders of our country and form of government provided the Constitution which is stretched for sure by people with biased opinions, we are human beings after all. You can go on with your tangential thinking but you have actually argued against yourself on different topics. Might want to write down your thoughts on index cards to keep your talking points straight
It's not the job of the government to provide. What you want is for the government to rob some people and give it to others.
You are not entitled to the product of other peoples labor. It is theft/slavery. PERIOD.
The Constitution is a document of limited government, not a document of limited rights.
Government can only do 2 things. Take away your rights, or protect them. Protecting them is the only legitimate function of government. A common defense, making sure people do not infringe on your rights, property etc.
I am down for a constitutional republic. You can shove your democracy of limited rights up your arse though.
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 6/19/25 at 2:48 pm to 3down10
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It is theft/slavery. PERIOD.
I’m a tax attorney. I spend every work day fighting the IRS. Even I know this is a silly statement. Taxes are way too high. But some taxation is not theft.
Are you one of those sovereign citizens?
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 6/19/25 at 3:02 pm to BBONDS25
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I’m a tax attorney. I spend every work day fighting the IRS. Even I know this is a silly statement. Taxes are way too high. But some taxation is not theft.
No, it's not a silly statement and if taxes went away you'd lose your job.
You are taking from 1 person and giving it to another by force. If you do not comply you will be put in prison, and/or killed if you resist.
Those are the facts. That is the act of armed robbery. You are merely claiming that the armed robbery is justified.
The bottom line is anything that requires the labor of another person is not a human right.
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Are you one of those sovereign citizens?
No. Just because the laws are unjust and wrong doesn't mean I'm magically immune to them. Wish it did. I will never support the crap and will always point it out for what it is.
There is no reason why people should be forced to pay for things they don't want to. Especially since the money mostly ends up everywhere else. The more money they throw at education, the worse it gets. Same for everything else the government is claimed to provide.

Posted on 6/19/25 at 4:40 pm to 3down10
Still the tangent about nonsense. You continue to not understand the difference between provide for the country for societal purposes such as security, enforcement of constitutional rights or protection for people in other manners such as medicine development quality food. These require being paid for. Is there waste & fraud, absolutely by maybe half of what is actually collected. These are all done by people that represent us that are elected by us. Choose to get involved and become a congressman or find a hole and climb into it
Posted on 6/19/25 at 5:05 pm to Nosevens
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Still the tangent about nonsense. You continue to not understand the difference between provide for the country for societal purposes such as security, enforcement of constitutional rights or protection for people in other manners such as medicine development quality food. These require being paid for. Is there waste & fraud, absolutely by maybe half of what is actually collected. These are all done by people that represent us that are elected by us. Choose to get involved and become a congressman or find a hole and climb into it
You do not have a right to the labor of others. You can ASK them, and if they also feel the cause is worthy, they can then choose to do those things.
And there are plenty of taxes that are voluntary/legit. Take a gas tax. It's a legitimate tax. It's consumption based, and it's directly tied to what is consumed. If you do not use the roads, then you do not pay the gas tax(directly anyway). But if you use the roads often, you will pay the most in taxes. It doesn't matter how rich or poor you are, the tax is based on consumption.
Beyond that, I doubt you can grasp the concept of money well enough to understand the differences between our current monetary systems of debt/slavery and an honest monetary system that preserves the value of the currency. That is where congress would actually get a good bit of money - assuming the economy is growing.
But if we had an honest monetary system, it would be similar to that of colonial scripts. In which the amount of money issued by the government is done in direct proportion to the amount of trade going on. The value of the currency should never change. 0% inflation, 0% deflation. When the economy grows we need more money in circulation, that's tax revenue. Not debt as with the current economic slavery model we live under, just printed by the government. You know, one of the things Kennedy and Lincoln were killed for, and countless other world leaders. Of course, if the economy stalls, it also means they have to reduce the money supply, aka take in money instead of printing it.
This is what the Federal Reserve claims to do. It does not. Which is why a dollar is no longer redeemable in gold/silver.
And that brings up the problem, as was seen with the Continental Dollar. If congress is able to print up money as it wants, it will just continue to do so until the value of the dollar is worthless. Just like the Fed does now, but as debt which is even worse.
So in the constitution, the dollar was tied to gold and silver, to try and prevent congress from inflating the money supply. Not the best, but it recognizes the flaws of congress and tries to fix it. Now the fed just prints up money and calls it debt, and most of the tax payer money is just to pay interest on that so called debt, while the government spends extreme amounts of money on other agendas. All the while the value of the dollar is taken away at the same time by the money they print, aka inflation.
It's a scam, stop defending it. There is a reason the only time Jesus got somewhat violent was with the moneychangers.
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 6/19/25 at 5:11 pm to 3down10
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Especially considering our borders are wide open and a host of other problems going on at home.
Well you just need a pro border security president.
And part of our at home problems are the people siding with Iranian backed terror groups.
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 5:12 pm
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