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re: It’s time to raise the voting age to 25

Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:52 am to
Posted by Wtxtiger
Gonzales la
Member since Feb 2011
7257 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:52 am to
I have 20 year olds that still that work under me still living with their mom and can’t drive a standard transmission.
They can’t do simple shite like change a battery or tire.
They can’t cut with a torch, weld or even use a skill saw.
They can play on their phones though.
You should see them try and back up a trailer, it’s pathetic.
The school system ruined them
This post was edited on 3/30/18 at 11:55 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162208 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:54 am to
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I have 20 year olds that still that work under me still living with their mom and can’t drive a standard transmission.

Who in the frick needs to know how to drive a standard transmission?
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They can’t do simple shite like change a battery or tire.
They can cut with a torch, weld or even use a skill saw.
They can play on their phones though.
You should see them try and back up a trailer, it’s pathetic.
The school system ruined them


Sounds like their stupid fricking parents ruined them to me. And you must be a shitty manager to be hiring all these people with 0 skills and then getting your pussy all sore when you figure out they can't do anything.
Posted by Volatile
Tennessee
Member since Apr 2014
5471 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 11:55 am to
How about no?

*am older than 25
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21856 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 12:01 pm to
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Would you be in support of no military enlistment for those under 25? If not, why?


No, because the college tuition assistance is a major reason why a lot of people enlist after high school. So if those recruits have to wait 7 years to enlist, they’ll figure out another way to pay for education or will have skipped college and went straight into the workforce. Enlisting becomes a lot less attractive of an option when you’ve already paid for college another way, already settled into a civilian career that pays more than military, and possibly set down roots (bought a house, got married, had kids). Enlistment would drop off big time if you didn’t allow them to sign up right after high school.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18058 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 12:03 pm to
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If their brains are "developed enough" to get drafted and sent to war to fight/die for our protection, they have every right to vote. I


We don’t have a draft.
Posted by Wtxtiger
Gonzales la
Member since Feb 2011
7257 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 12:03 pm to
I don’t hire them. I do what I can with who I have.
There are many machines in the industrial field that are standards.
They have taken the shop classes out of schools. No welding, metals shop, no woodwork shop.
I manage who gets sent to me. These kids are unprepared for the working world. You may not see it because you don’t work in the industrial world. They don’t have the most basic of skills we had at that age. They just don’t. A whole generation raised by women with no man in the home and a school system that has moved away from teaching shop classes are to blame.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162208 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 12:06 pm to
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I don’t hire them. I do what I can with who I have.

I was under the impression that it was your business?
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There are many machines in the industrial field that are standards.

I can see that being a necessity. But as far as driving a commuter vehicle, the ability to drive a standard is pretty much a useless skill.

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You may not see it because you don’t work in the industrial world.

I do work in the industrial world

Fortunately it sounds like we have better access to talent
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17127 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 12:11 pm to
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I think what you mean is that no Democrats should be allowed to vote until 52.


Dyslexia is a elbirret gniht.
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
9616 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 12:13 pm to
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They have taken the shop classes out of schools. No welding, metals shop, no woodwork shop.


I agree with this point. But, you can also blame the larger industries for this. They all have apprenticeships that'll teach you all the basics, eliminating the need for "shop class" in high school.

And, I hear your complaints. They're legitimate, but the blame is shared.

"We are the people that you hate; the fricking bastards that you created." -"Nowhere kids" by Smile Empty Soul

Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5637 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 12:13 pm to
The SSS is still very much in place as a contingency plan. What you mean to say is we haven't needed one in a long time, which is true. But if we did, you bet your arse people would hear their names called.
Posted by tmjones2
TX
Member since Feb 2013
1511 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 12:16 pm to
Sounds great, but let's also take away the right to vote from anyone over 60 because their brains aren't exactly in tip-top shape either.

Or would that not have the effect you're looking for?
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5637 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 12:17 pm to
Did you mean to respond to me? I'm not advocating for anyone's voting rights be taken away.....
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58553 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 12:20 pm to
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They can’t do simple shite like change a battery or tire.
They can’t cut with a torch, weld or even use a skill saw.


So they're not rednecks? What's the problem?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57095 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 12:20 pm to
If 18 year-olds can't handle their right to own a gun, why should they be trusted with the right to vote?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139807 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 12:21 pm to
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So they're not rednecks?


Today I learned only rednecks can change a car battery.

Idiot.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58553 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 12:24 pm to
Aww. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. Is changing a car battery really some sort of essential life skill that we should be using to measure someone's competency?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162208 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 12:25 pm to
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Is changing a car battery really some sort of essential life skill that we should be using to measure someone's competency?



Of course not

But it would probably be good to know how to jump start a car

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57095 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 12:31 pm to
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Is changing a car battery really some sort of essential life skill that we should be using to measure someone's competency?
yeah. It kinda is. It's simple to figure out, and takes no special skill whatsoever. The fact that so many millennials won't even attempt it... its telling.

Their lack of self-sufficiency is a big part of why the are in such economic trouble. Having to pay a "mechanic" $50 for something they could do themselves in under 15 minutes FOR FREE is a big part of why they are poor-- unless they are making like $200/hr.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20759 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 12:33 pm to
We should implement some sort of basic civics test when you register to vote. If you can't pass that then you have no business having vote matter. Why should we hold our politicians to any standard if refuse to hold ourselves to one?

Truth be told, there are a lot of things with our electoral process that need to change. We need to get rid of party affiliation on the ballot, the primary system for all offices should be a ranked voting system instead of one vote - one choice, and the Presidential primaries need to have more structure & conformity. We are too antiquated in our thinking when it comes to the electoral process.

Just because the current system was right 100 years ago doesn't mean it's efficient for our society today.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 12:35 pm to
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Well if you read the quote then you would know that irrational teenagers are more prone to doing things without thought of long term consequences. You know, things like charging up a hill into machine gun fire and jumping on grenades and shite. We need those kind of people to fight our wars. We don’t need them deciding the future of the country.



Oh, so we need people who aren’t fully developed in the brain to go kill themselves for their country but not be able to vote? Makes sense.
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