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re: Its time for conservatives to abandon elite colleges
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:41 am to BestBanker
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:41 am to BestBanker
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Yours is flawed thinking.
No.
Yours is, you want conservatives to abandoned education, and thats not how you fix anything.
Do you know why Progressives though small in number "own" education and other institutions? Because they out work you.
They volunteer, work low paying jobs, etc.... to "make a difference" and you folks let them.
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Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:42 am to Harry Caray
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How do you even begin to quantify that
Just pick some. Yale, Harvard, Columbia, UC Berkeley…whatever
Set an example. If they change their ways and fire liberal administrators and professors and start indoctrinating kids the right way instead of the liberal way their graduates will start getting interviews again.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:42 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Some people are soft minded and can be easily manipulated. They'll find that at LSU or Dartmouth.
You're knowingly paying to send your children to an environment where if they espouse even moderate republican positions they'll be ostracized socially and spend their entire college experience dealing with professors who will try to destroy them academically if they defend their values.
Meanwhile they'll have virtually no friends (less than 100 members of the Brown College Republicans) and be trying to date within a social pool where the options will range from radical LGBTQ to marxists to northeast casual progressives who view holding a door for a woman as toxic masculinity.
And your position is if they adapt to survive the environment you knowingly sent them into they're "soft minded and easily manipulated".
Makes total sense in a world in which they can learn from the same text books at a school of similar academic profile where none of those social and academic conditions would be present.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:42 am to Tantal
quote:this is a cope
The school on your degree means very little.
quote:this is a meaningless anecdote
have a cousin who was sitting on a 4.0 in Accounting at Texas. He ended up transferring to Stephen F. Austin because vaginas are undefeated, but of course he maintained the 4.0. Now he's the President and CEO of some large construction materials company. He likely wouldn't be doing any better or worse had he stayed at Texas.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:43 am to tide06
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You're knowingly paying to send your children to an environment where if they espouse even moderate republican positions they'll be ostracized socially
Your ideal is to abandon it.
That will never work
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:43 am to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:
this is a meaningless anecdote
Well, he's better off financially than his own uncle who has a law degree from Harvard.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:44 am to retired_tiger
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So only the best colleges and universities are the bad ones, ok.
There are plenty of schools that aren't socially and culturally hard left that are tier 1 or tier 2 type schools.
Other than trying to work on wall street or get into specific law firms it doesnt really matter that much past tier 2 anyway.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:44 am to tide06
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If you don't think an 18 YO boy will start spouting marxist messaging to get a date or avoid being screamed at as a fascist every time they leave their dorm room you're fooling yourself
Close friend dropped off a normal son at Amherst this year. I don't expect him to stay well adjusted for long.
Look at the COVID sheep that were in their 30-40-50s, and how they implored people to just get the jab, the masking mandates and societal shame. If your kid was in the military, maybe they can stand up to it before they transfer out. Otherwise, not likely. Working the TPUSA booth will get your face posted all over social media.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:46 am to CapnKangaroo
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and start indoctrinating kids the right way
So indoctrination is good but only when it's for things you agree with, got it. Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:47 am to Harry Caray
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So indoctrination is good but only when it's for things you agree with, got it.
Yes. Next question
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:48 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Do you know why Progressives though small in number "own" education and other institutions? Because they out work you.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:50 am to tide06
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And your position is if they adapt to survive the environment you knowingly sent them into they're "soft minded and easily manipulated".
These two 17 year olds have already heard and been subjected to most of what they'll hear at any post secondary school in terms of poliitics.
You cant go through life avoiding opportunity, you have to trust what you've instilled in these kids at some point.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:52 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Your ideal is to abandon it.
That will never work
Your ideal is to sacrifice your children by putting them into an unwinnable academic and cultural situation.
That's not their burden to bear.
The left didn't run through the institutions with a couple moderate republicans from Alaska and yours aren't going to fix the issues at any of those schools.
I went to a very conservative school for undergrad and a tier 1 liberal school for grad school and had any door career wise I would've ever wanted wide open when I was done.
Those schools have to be fixed at the Board of Regents level down and the political realities of the states in which they operate are such that it'll never happen.
We aren't abandoning anything, our grandparents abandoned those places going back to the 50s when the communists infiltrated those academic institutions and we have no means by which to combat that.
You sending your kids off like some forlorn kamikaze attack at the end of WW2 is exactly what they want because then instead of being productive and positive independent thinkers when they leave Vandy or GTech they're going to leave Dartmouth with your college tuition money as indoctrinated leftists.
I fail to see how that accomplishes anything positive unless you're a marxist administrator at NYU or whatever.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:53 am to tide06
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Your ideal is to sacrifice your children
My granddaughter has solid values, I have faith in those values.
Sorry you dont raise your kids right.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
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These two 17 year olds have already heard and been subjected to most of what they'll hear at any post secondary school in terms of poliitics.
You're in denial. Most on this board couldn't hold up well for four years of what they'll face over there any more than a leftist would process well at Citadel or Liberty.
You know how many liberal kids from NJ I've seen leave Bama as conservatives? It works both ways.
You can either reinforce independent thinking or send them somewhere with strong culture one way or the other, but pretending they wont be influenced heavily flies in the face of all statistical and psychological studies even setting aside the mountain of personal anecdotes you could get just talking to other parents who have already been down this road.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:59 am to tide06
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You're in denial. Most on this board couldn't hold up well for four years of what they'll face over there any more than a leftist would process well at Citadel or Liberty.
Youve given up and dont trust the values you have instilled in your family.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 9:59 am to Harry Caray
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How do you even begin to quantify that
I guess the same way USWR does, or tries too. Those rating are worthless as well. Pay Scale is where $$ ranking talk and lib arts BS rankings walk.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 10:01 am to GreatLakesTiger24
It's true.
UTEP >> Yale
UTEP >> Yale
Posted on 12/17/25 at 10:02 am to anc
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Its time to flood the SEC schools with conservatives and drown out any liberal thinking.
Amen.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 10:03 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Sorry you dont raise your kids right.
Trying to make it personal? Sounds like maybe you don't feel confident in your argument here.
You still haven't explained how paying $300k to send your grandchildren to a place that hates them without knowing them based on their worldview and doesn't respect them enough as humans to tolerate their free speech or alternative moral framework makes sense.
I wish you and yours all the best, be interested to hear what their situation is in four years.
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