re: It's time for car dealerships to die

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Somebody didn’t get the car they wanted

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I wanted an X7 or an SQ7. I would have been happy with either. I had a hysterical fit of laughter when the Audi dealer quoted me 11+ months for a custom build. BMW delivered the X7 in just under 8 weeks.

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They also exist to service the car you buy

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And they charge way more than the neighborhood mechanic

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dealer quoted me 11+ months for a custom build

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What was the excuse? I’d have done the exact same thing FWIW. You can build a (small) house in that amount of time.

I dont' know what you're talking about, but I'm pissed enough at the service department of my local Chevy dealership to agree with you.

Let's get it done!

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I don’t ever deal with the finance dept, and I have a salesman I’ve bought 8-9 cars from over the last 6 years. Never had an issue. Some of yall just choose to make life hard

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Car salesmen can be quite slimy but most people just handle the car buying process wrong. They let dealers finesse them into the car they have on the lot that isn't what they need with a deal that works better for them than you.

Unfortunately, a lot of the things people imagine are good negotiating tactics are not particularly valuable. For example, I never give an indication I am considering paying in cash because for many dealers the car sales profits are really in kickbacks they get from the bank for securing the financing. Letting them know you have the money is not enticing them, it is actually encouraging them to give you a worse deal on the out-the-door because they will not be getting the financing kickback.

Since I can put up an ad online "selling my old car" and sell it that way, how are direct sales prohibited? And what about companies like Carfax?

Well they use consumer protection as an excuse but there is some validity you selling a single car that you had owned you're the owner of the car so you have the title to the car therefore for certain amount of cash that you agreed to you can transfer that ownership that is included in the right of ownership


But if you're a used car dealer
citizens and states have decided that in order to protect a consumer from fraud someone dealing in stolen automobiles or unsafe automobiles that those businesses must be registered and therefore regulated by the state


that's the reasoning


Way back at the beginning of automobiles, automobile manufacturers raise capital by selling the license to sell their vehicles in different parts of the country. Selling the exclusivity rights in a geographic area

Then as time went by as automobile manufacturers and dealers gained wealth they used that money to buy influence legislatively

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What was the excuse? I’d have done the exact same thing FWIW. You can build a (small) house in that amount of time

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I was told not only that they didn't have any build allocations for 11+ months but that even if I ordered one my allocation could be dropped! I left with the impression that Audi was artificially limiting demand. I would chalk it up to supply chain issues if other manufacturers were also quoting ridiculously long build times.

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Yeah that's how they make money. People are forced to pay the same dealer that sold them an overpriced automobile to pay that same dealer for overpriced service

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No one forces you to spend one thin dime in the dealer's service department.

Fun fact-You also don't have to take it to the dealer you bought it from for warranty work. Any dealer of that brand can do warranty work.

I'm continually amazed at how many people do not understand this. Frankly, I think they just like to bitch while not realizing how uninformed they appear.