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re: It's OK to be openly gay.....unless you're running as a Republican. Then, NO.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:06 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:06 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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All I was doing was clarifying.
I understand that Mick. No harm. Like I said, I perhaps should have used the words non conservative to clarify who I was talking about but, in all honesty, I figured it would be understood.
When the NAACP fails to come to Clarence Thomas' defense and when NOW fails to protect Sarah Palin from vicious attacks I have to believe the liberal cause is more important to them than certain people who make up their advocacy group.
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:10 pm to wilfont
Where is Toddy? 
Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:10 pm to wilfont
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When the NAACP fails to come to Clarence Thomas' defense and when NOW fails to protect Sarah Palin from vicious attacks I have to believe the liberal cause is more important to them than certain people who make up their advocacy group.
Well and that was the point I was trying to make earlier. Most of these political groups' sole focus in on promoting their party. Generally speaking, most single issue groups (NAACP, LGBT groups, womens rights groups, etc) will support both parties if it advances their goals and initiatives.
Again, a group like Log Cabin Republicans don't throw support behind every gay candidate they come across. They support Republicans first and foremost.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:13 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Generally speaking, most single issue groups (NAACP, LGBT groups, womens rights groups, etc) will support both parties if it advances their goals and initiatives.
The NAACP has supported liberals for years and it appears as if no advancement has been made within their communities.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:16 pm to lsu13lsu
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he NAACP has supported liberals for years and it appears as if no advancement has been made within their communities.
I would also like to add, the only history that comes up over the last 10 years of the NAACP supporting anything with Republican attached to it's name.. was a proposal in 2013 to undo the current drug laws. That's it - all the while:
Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:16 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Again, a group like Log Cabin Republicans don't throw support behind every gay candidate they come across. They support Republicans first and foremost.
I don't want to beat this to death, and I'm sure you don't either, but there's a huge difference between a group like the Log Cabin Republicans who identify themselves with a political party and the NAACP or NOW which don't.
I wouldn't expect the Log Cabin Republican gays to support a gay running as a democrat. Those other two groups are advocacy groups and not identified by political party.
To the NAACP and NOW a conservative black and a conservative woman should be just as worthy of their support.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:20 pm to wilfont
Oh I totally agree with you and that's what I was saying. Sorry if I wasn't clear either.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:22 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:24 pm to cahoots
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Is this what fox is now reporting?
No they are reporting about some gay dude running for Congress and pointing out how he has been smeared in the past. You should try reading the link in the OP.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:24 pm to lsu13lsu
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The NAACP has supported liberals for years and it appears as if no advancement has been made within their communities.
by design
Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:35 pm to UncleFestersLegs
https://sdgln.com/commentary/2014/04/24/lgbt-blogger-condemns-nom-attack-carl-demaio#sthash.TZpQqBWf.OZO2Y7ww.dpbs
Here's another article on the issue, specifically addressing the NOM attacks.
Here's another article on the issue, specifically addressing the NOM attacks.
quote:
Carl DeMaio is a Republican Candidate for California's 52nd congressional district (northern San Diego county). Mr. DeMaio happens to be gay; National Organization for Marriage is not.
DeMaio represents what some are calling the new generation of the GOP. Fiscal conservatives free from slavish devotion to the Christian right. These folks were once called "Rockefeller Republicans." Yet Barry Goldwater, who was far to to the right of Nelson Rockefeller, was independent of religious conservatives. So was version 1.28.7 of John McCain. At long last, GOPers might be realizing that uterus control and gay bashing are not winning hearts and minds.
Nothing spells doom faster for NOM than gay Republicans. The very notion that "gay GOPer" is not an oxymoron finishes them off faster than the US Supreme Court.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:37 pm to CptBengal
To be fair, isn't this what social conservatives want? Don't they hate the "gay agenda" and all the gay love the left throws out?
I'd think they'd be happy that liberals finally treated a gay person like...well, like they do.
I'd think they'd be happy that liberals finally treated a gay person like...well, like they do.
This post was edited on 4/28/14 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:42 pm to Roger Klarvin
A gay Republican is often going to be left on his own to campaign during a race. The national and state level GOP groups would rarely throw their support his/her way and obviously the Democrats are going to be against them as well.
There really is nothing that liberals fear more than gay republicans and black republicans. It throws all of their social, emotion-based talking points out the window.
There really is nothing that liberals fear more than gay republicans and black republicans. It throws all of their social, emotion-based talking points out the window.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:50 pm to CptBengal
quote:"tolerance".
One false attack drew the attention of the San Diego Ethics Commission. An anonymous left-wing group funded a SuperPac and sent mailers of DeMaio Photoshopped next to a drag queen to neighborhoods with a majority of elderly and African-American voters, knowing that such a photo would depress support for DeMaio
Shame how the LGBT community has been played like a fine violin by democrats.
Oh. And good DeMaio on openly running!
Posted on 4/28/14 at 2:53 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:I don't think you'll find many that support this kind of degrading personal attack. Maybe I'm wrong? But I hope not.
To be fair, isn't this what social conservatives want? Don't they hate the "gay agenda" and all the gay love the left throws out?
Posted on 4/28/14 at 3:06 pm to Taxing Authority
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I don't think you'll find many that support this kind of degrading personal attack. Maybe I'm wrong? But I hope not.
It's the kind of thing the Louisiana Family Forum does regularly unfortunately.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 3:14 pm to CptBengal
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An anonymous left-wing group funded a SuperPac and sent mailers of DeMaio Photoshopped next to a drag queen to neighborhoods with a majority of elderly and African-American voters, knowing that such a photo would depress support for DeMaio.
If they're anonymous how do you know they are "left wing" ?
Posted on 4/28/14 at 3:18 pm to Taxing Authority
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I don't think you'll find many that support this kind of degrading personal attack. Maybe I'm wrong? But I hope not.
A lot of people would not, but hardcore social conservatives would.
Just check out most of the gay threads that pop up on this board. A disturbingly high number of people still believe all the stock claims about homosexuals derived half a century ago.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 4:20 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Is that the Tony Perkins Gestapo?
It's the kind of thing the Louisiana Family Forum does regularly unfortunately.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 4:23 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:I donno. I wouldn't speak for them.
but hardcore social conservatives would.
quote:Meh. A lot of people fire for effect.
Just check out most of the gay threads that pop up on this board. A disturbingly high number of people still believe all the stock claims about homosexuals derived half a century ago.
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