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re: It would seem that the President is trying to tell us something.

Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:48 pm to
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:48 pm to
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Iran is the deep states tentacles for instability. That’s why they are fighting so hard for Iran.


This is obvious to most people.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:53 pm to
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The deep state wants tolls, a strong Iran and high insurance rates in the vessels. Lloyd’s of London called Trumps hand and lost.



You're just throwing together randomness. Did you get this from Promethean Update or something? Only they could create something so silly

*ETA: Also this doesn't even work. Prior to the war, there were no tolls and Iran was weak. That would mean that Trump is doing the Deep State's bidding by starting the war that accomplished both of those things.
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:54 pm to
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Im gonna guess there will be a paper trail.


Unless HRC is on every piece of paper on that trail, the CT dies very early in the process.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:54 pm to
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This is obvious to most people.

Except countries like Russia and China, but what would they know about fighting the "Deep State" or "globalism", am I right?
Posted by seedmonster77
Member since Feb 2025
266 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:58 pm to
This isn't crazy to think. You've got to wonder if it is controlled by some illuminati lizard people. Think of all the money Iran brings in from oil and gas. It has to be tempting to take a cut.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 1:01 pm to
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game over
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68614 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 1:02 pm to
Globalist interests would love access to that oil and gas. Trump is doing their bidding as he did with Venezuela.
Posted by RandRules
Member since Mar 2025
429 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 1:04 pm to
Whether you are for or against the war should really depend on whether you are or are not okay with a nuclear-armed Iran
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 1:05 pm to
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Most people are still viewing President Trump’s foreign policy through the old post-WW2 lens. That lens is obsolete. What P Trump is attempting is not a minor policy adjustment. It is a complete restructuring of the global economic and geopolitical order.

Read that again.

For 80 years, America operated under a “globalist” framework:
• America paid the bills
• America defended everyone
• America opened its markets
• America carried NATO
• America protected shipping lanes
• America subsidized allies
• America tolerated trade imbalances
• America exported democracy while factories disappeared and debt exploded at home

That system enriched multinational corporations, global institutions, foreign economies, and permanent bureaucracies.

But millions of Americans watched:

- manufacturing collapse
- wages stagnate
- communities hollow out
- endless wars drain trillions
- China rise into a superpower using America's own economic system against itself

President Trump is trying to replace that model with something entirely different:

?? A transactional, America First economic coalition built around ENERGY, TRADE, SECURITY, MANUFACTURING, and STRATEGIC DEALS.

That Truth Social post about the Abraham Accords wasn’t just another statement. It was a blueprint.

If this succeeds, you are looking at the construction of a massive economic/security network that could include:

- The United States
- Saudi Arabia
- UAE
- Qatar
- Egypt
- Jordan
- Israel
- Pakistan
- Türkiye
- India
- parts of Latin America
- strategic Indo-Pacific partners
- and critically, a normalization framework with BOTH China and Russia where competition still exists, but catastrophic conflict is avoided through economic leverage, negotiated spheres of influence, energy coordination, and transactional diplomacy

This is one of the most misunderstood parts of President Trump’s geopolitical strategy.

Many Americans still think in Cold War terms:
America vs Russia.
America vs China.
Permanent hostility.
Permanent escalation.

But President Trump’s approach is far more transactional and realist.

Instead of trying to ideologically remake the world, the strategy appears focused on:

- preventing direct great-power war
- reducing the chance of nuclear escalation
- using trade leverage instead of permanent military occupation
- creating economic interdependence where possible
- forcing burden-sharing among allies
- and positioning America as the central negotiating power between rival blocs

That does NOT mean “surrendering” to China or Russia.

It means recognizing a reality many in Washington refused to accept for decades:
China is already an economic superpower.
Russia remains a military and energy superpower.

The question is no longer whether they exist as major powers.
The question is whether America can position itself at the center of a new balance of power that benefits Americans instead of endlessly draining American wealth trying to maintain a fading unipolar system.

This is why you are seeing:
• negotiations instead of immediate escalation
• energy diplomacy
• tariff wars instead of troop surges
• pressure campaigns tied to trade access
• selective partnerships instead of blind alliances
• attempts to split rival coalitions apart through deals

President Trump is essentially trying to create overlapping economic zones where America is no longer carrying the world for free - but instead sits at the center of the world’s most powerful deal-making network.

Combined economic power? Potentially $65-75+ TRILLION in GDP. Over HALF the global economy.

Think about what that means.

This is about:
? energy dominance
? shipping lanes
? critical minerals
? AI infrastructure
? manufacturing chains
? food security
? military positioning
? trade corridors
? investment flows
? currency leverage
? stabilizing relations between major powers where possible
? isolating hostile behavior through leverage instead of endless occupation wars

And younger Americans especially need to understand this part:

THIS DIRECTLY IMPACTS YOUR FUTURE.

If America remains trapped in the old system:

- debt keeps exploding
- jobs continue leaving
- housing becomes less affordable
- wages get crushed by global competition
- endless foreign entanglements continue
- America slowly declines like other aging empires

But if America successfully repositions itself at the center of a new energy/manufacturing/trade coalition:

- industrial jobs return
- energy prices stabilize
- strategic industries reshoring accelerates
- infrastructure investment increases
- supply chains become more secure
- America regains leverage instead of bleeding leverage

This is why you see such aggressive pushes around:
• tariffs
• domestic manufacturing
• energy independence
• critical minerals
• Middle East normalization
• India relations
• securing trade routes
• reducing dependency on hostile supply chains
• stabilizing great-power relations through leverage and economic pressure instead of permanent military escalation

This is not random.

This is an attempt to build a new geopolitical architecture for the next 50 years.

And whether people like President Trump or hate him personally is becoming irrelevant to the scale of what is unfolding.

The Abraham Accords themselves are historic because they shift the Middle East from perpetual religious/geopolitical conflict toward economic interdependence.

Peace through prosperity.
Trade instead of proxy wars.
Economic incentives instead of permanent instability.

That changes everything:

- investment floods in
- shipping stabilizes
- energy markets calm
- regional growth accelerates
- tourism expands
- infrastructure projects explode
- security cooperation increases

And if normalization frameworks eventually extend outward toward Russia and even portions of China’s economic system, you could be looking at the emergence of the largest interconnected economic balancing structure in modern history.

Not a utopia.
Not permanent peace.
Not the end of competition.

But a system where economic incentives and strategic leverage become more powerful than endless military occupations and ideological crusades.

The old order was based on permanent management of conflict.

This new model attempts to monetize stability.

Will it fully work? Nobody knows yet. There are enormous risks, contradictions, and power struggles involved. Traditional allies are nervous. Global institutions hate it. Rival powers are cautious. Some countries will resist. Others will attempt to manipulate it.

But Americans should at least understand the scale of the play being attempted here.

This is not “normal politics.”
This is a potential civilizational realignment.

And if younger Americans do not start paying attention to economics, geopolitics, energy, trade, manufacturing, and global power shifts now - they are going to inherit a world they do not understand.

Read. Research. Think critically.
And SHARE this so more Americans understand what may be unfolding in real time.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 1:06 pm to
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but he's too much of a simpleton to ever connect the dots on Q.


frick yes
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63505 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 1:06 pm to
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Preserving the Uniparty is job #1 and the moves he's made are in keeping with that goal.
FIFY.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31729 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 1:07 pm to
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Are we stopping the Iran war? Because that war is completely supported by the "Deep State"


You think so?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477446 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 1:07 pm to
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Whether you are for or against the war should really depend on whether you are or are not okay with a nuclear-armed Iran


You're just arguing that this is a Deep State op.

They LOVE to create those talking point summaries to trigger the reptile brain of people.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68614 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 1:07 pm to
Ailsa, you stand with deep state ghouls Victoria Nuland and Mike Pompeo.
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Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 1:09 pm to
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Globalist interests would love access to that oil and gas. Trump is doing their bidding as he did with Venezuela.



Are the European globalists just feigning indignation over our recent actions in Iran, you think? What about our ones stateside? Do you not consider the Democrat Party to be amongst the "globalists"?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477446 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 1:10 pm to
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That system enriched multinational corporations, global institutions, foreign economies, and permanent bureaucracies.

But millions of Americans watched:

- manufacturing collapse
- wages stagnate
- communities hollow out
- endless wars drain trillions
- China rise into a superpower using America's own economic system against itself


With populists, expect populism

quote:

Instead of trying to ideologically remake the world, the strategy appears focused on:

- preventing direct great-power war
- reducing the chance of nuclear escalation
- using trade leverage instead of permanent military occupation
- creating economic interdependence where possible
- forcing burden-sharing among allies
- and positioning America as the central negotiating power between rival blocs

This is literally describing the "new world order" after the fall of the USSR

quote:

Peace through prosperity.
Trade instead of proxy wars.
Economic incentives instead of permanent instability.

Again, this was the system before Trump took office.

quote:

And if normalization frameworks eventually extend outward toward Russia and even portions of China’s economic system, you could be looking at the emergence of the largest interconnected economic balancing structure in modern history.

Literally describing "globalism"

It really takes a big brain to argue that Trump deconstructed a system only to implement literally that same system again
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477446 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 1:10 pm to
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You think so?

Iran has opposed the "Deep State" and "globalism" since 1979
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477446 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 1:11 pm to
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Are the European globalists just feigning indignation over our recent actions in Iran, you think? What about our ones stateside? Do you not consider the Democrat Party to be amongst the "globalists"?


This just shows that "globalism" has no real meaning, especially pos Venezuela and Iran conflicts. It never made sense, but it's now opposed to most forms of it from 2016.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68614 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 1:13 pm to
They seem to be in support, right? But, you bring up something that I think is a related point and this board sees clearly. The deep state/globalists love using Ukraine to try to break up Russia into pieces. It's weird to me that people can understand it there, but not here.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173850 posts
Posted on 5/26/26 at 1:13 pm to
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This just shows that "globalism" has no real meaning, especially pos Venezuela and Iran conflicts. It never made sense, but it's now opposed to most forms of it from 2016.

I've asked the question on here multiple times and there doesn't seem to be any agreement on what globalism actually is. Everyone has their own personal definition.

And you're right to point out that foreign intervention is certainly not "anti globalist" by any stretch of the imagination.
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