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re: It will be Kamala Harris to replace Biden

Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:33 pm to
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37707 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:33 pm to
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He also brings nothing. Cali is going blue, he has been recalled, money has already been spent.


I disagree with you here.


He is the prototypical politician who will come across well on the TV and his looks and talk will cause suburban people to ignore his policies in California.


I just don’t know if he and his money people are willing to sacrifice a chance at the presidency with a non standard campaign.


quote:

Believe it or not, dems will vote for Trump in the booth because 2016 was better than 2020 and they know it.


In a Biden v Trump race for sure.


Whoever replaces Biden (if they replace him) has the opportunity to run away from Biden.





Trump HAS to hammer the point that the left LIED to you. They have run this country and told you Joe was fine and he wasn’t. That should be an unforgivable lie.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36482 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:34 pm to
Damn you don’t give folks out there much credibility do you?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37707 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:40 pm to
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Damn you don’t give folks out there much credibility do you?



I think how much I think of of the average American then I realize 50% of America is below that line and realize there is no way to account for rationality in a national election

I came to this conclusion living in the Houston metro area and young professionals I knew that were evangelicals who worked in oil and gas still voted for Biden over Trump.


If someone who I respect in intelligence otherwise did something that idiotic to their personal interests then I realized I would never be able to fully predict the idiocy of 50% of America
Posted by North Dallas Tiger
United States of America
Member since Mar 2024
13008 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:42 pm to
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Trump HAS to hammer the point that the left LIED to you. They have run this country and told you Joe was fine and he wasn’t. That should be an unforgivable lie.
100% agree
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
3651 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:09 pm to
Given all the back door things going on in the Democrat Party....that evidently the Obamas have their desired replacement, and the Clinton's have theirs, I have to wonder if Biden inviting Newsom to the debate was his checkmate. Newsom is the only Dem with any possibility of coming in late and winning. Michelle is not going to run, and Kamala and any other Dem behind her would get destroyed. Maybe if RFK was invited back, but I think that ship has sailed.

Was this Jill's way of saying, that Obama and Clinton don't want you (to Newsom), so come to the debate and rub it in their faces?
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
19239 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:12 pm to
It’s a high school popularity contest.

A big name will be nominated with little time to think on it
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
21184 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:14 pm to
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Money seems to be lining up behind newsome.

Crazy. Wasnt this the guy that his own state hated. He was a disaster during covid and criticized left and right, now hes their great hope and a superstar in the dem party. What the hell happened?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35862 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:18 pm to
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I hate Kamala Harris. She’s a fricking idiot. But after the debate on Thursday night she should be sworn in immediately.


You raise a valid point. If Joe is such a liability Why isn’t the media crying for him to be replaced immediately? If he can’t run a campaign why the hell is he running our country?



Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35862 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:22 pm to
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He is the prototypical politician who will come across well on the TV and his looks and talk will cause suburban people to ignore his policies in California.


Part of me thinks that there are many people who would appreciate a return to a prototypical sleezy-but polished-politician.

Not saying Newsom would win but I think he’d be a problem for Trump.
Posted by BlueFalcon
Aberdeen Scotland
Member since Dec 2011
3680 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:22 pm to
RFK
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18730 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:30 pm to
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Money seems to be lining up behind newsome.


That might be a problem. He’s smooth. Think Obamas stage presence.

What I’m worried about his folks outside of Cali not knowing what he’s done to that state.

Trump needs to bring facts against him. Not hyperbole.

Assuming the change to Newsome survives legal challenges at the state level. Will be tough without the 25th.
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 11:32 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36482 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:36 pm to
Just my opinion here, but I believe Newsom is such a problematic national candidate that he actually makes Biden the better candidate, full stop.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41491 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:36 pm to
It all comes down to Hillary. If she wants to run again, she will railroad the delegates again. Donors don't want to see San Fran homeless camps, shite everywhere and people leaving their cars open so windows don't get smashed. I don't think Newsom is even top 3.

Oh and it is still her turn.

If on the first round nobody gets the required 4,000 delegates which probably wouldn't happen in round 1, then 700 super delegates get to vote. I would bet anything Hillary is already locking those down. She has all of the receipts from the when they steam rolled Bernie.

I did say if, but it has to eat at her soul that she lost and Joe beat Trump so i think Hillary does enter the fray.

Oh except this is all moot. Biden isn't dropping out.
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 11:44 pm
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18730 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:43 pm to
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Just my opinion here, but I believe Newsom is such a problematic national candidate that he actually makes Biden the better candidate, full stop.


You’re giving the electorate too much credit. They like ear candy. Newsome can deliver that.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41491 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:44 pm to
I would bet 85% of the general public couldn't tell you who he is.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18730 posts
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:45 pm to
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I would bet 85% of the general public couldn't tell you who he is.


And that’s what’s scary. He looks and sounds good. That’s good enough for leftists.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
31950 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:05 am to
It'll be Biden. Thursday night's debate was an outlier. There's a lot of vim and vigor left in that old man.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
31950 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:09 am to
Newsom doesn't play outside his West Coast, mostly white, affluent base. I think he would lose a general election. No name recognition.

Democrats may have more success with Ro Khanna or an ethnic wildcard than Newsom
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27174 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 1:56 am to
It has to be. How do you explain to the 90% of blacks who vote D that the DNC just passed right over the VP?
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 2:05 am to
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Money seems to be lining up behind newsome.


Somewhat, but Kamala has gone up more and is the current favourite (behind Biden himself). Lot of movement away from Biden as the nominee this evening on PredictIt (over 15% down for Biden versus this AM).

This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 2:07 am
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