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re: It looks like luckytiger and I were right about our interpretation: New trump tweet
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:07 pm to Powerman
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:07 pm to Powerman
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put out some ambiguous statement
It's only ambiguous if you are some window licker who thinks the president wants to mass murder black people. Sane people know how these riots end; Dallas, BR, etc...
quote:
Look. You're going to have to stop being a piece of shite and listen for at least 1 minute if you're going to get this.
Take your own advice.
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:08 pm to FooManChoo
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Let's not pretend that because someone could misinterpret his words that his words were "ambiguous". It's why context is important
The context of the tweet was thugs causing disorder that Trump would fix by sending in the NG to take control.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:17 pm to SDVTiger
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Only the most epic morons saw it this way
Lol, just take a look at the initial reactions here last night. Everyone knows exactly what trump was insinuating, even if they are too cowardly to admit it now
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:25 pm to uway
quote:Precisely. The context was the chaos was the rioting (of thugs) tarnishing the memory of the deceased and that when looting happens, shooting will likely follow. That's why he said the military is with the governor and, if needed, will assume control of the situation.
The context of the tweet was thugs causing disorder that Trump would fix by sending in the NG to take control.
In other words, the looting by the thugs could likely escalate to shooting, and if the state can't control it, the military is prepared to intervene.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:31 pm to bmy
quote:But you believe Joe Biden was joking about the “You ain’t black” comment.
bmy
You’re a dishonest retard.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:33 pm to FooManChoo
Yeah, I’d say it was pretty unclear since Headley meant it the other way from what Trump is now saying he meant.
"There is only one way to handle looters and arsonists during a riot and that is to shoot them on sight. I've let the word filter down: When the looting starts the shooting starts,"
"There is only one way to handle looters and arsonists during a riot and that is to shoot them on sight. I've let the word filter down: When the looting starts the shooting starts,"
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:35 pm to ericlagman
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There is only one way to handle looters and arsonists during a riot and that is to shoot them on sight. I've let the word filter down: When the looting starts the shooting starts,"
This will be a good test of intellectual honesty on here.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:35 pm to ericlagman
quote:The assumption here is that Trump was knowingly quoting Headley and knew how Headley was using it.
Yeah, I’d say it was pretty unclear since Headley meant it the other way from what Trump is now saying he meant.
"There is only one way to handle looters and arsonists during a riot and that is to shoot them on sight. I've let the word filter down: When the looting starts the shooting starts,"
Those of us who read the tweet before that quote was released understood what he meant based on the context.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:39 pm to FooManChoo
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Precisely. The context was the chaos was the rioting (of thugs) tarnishing the memory of the deceased and that when looting happens, shooting will likely follow. That's why he said the military is with the governor and, if needed, will assume control of the situation.
In other words, the looting by the thugs could likely escalate to shooting, and if the state can't control it, the military is prepared to intervene
That is absolutely the most charitable reading of the tweet.
Nobody against Trump and lots of undecideds aren't going to be that charitable.
Personally I think that, at best, he was setting a trap by being ambiguous, but that is granting him some 3D chess powers, even though in this case it would be a bad 3D chess move.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:40 pm to bmy
Trump's still your president for another 4.5 years
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:41 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Exactly, it was obvious what Trump was saying
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:41 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
quote:
Only the most epic morons saw it this way
Lol, just take a look at the initial reactions here last night. Everyone knows exactly what trump was insinuating, even if they are too cowardly to admit it now
I'd say the majority knew how morons would read it and reacted to that.
As usual, the morons lived up to expectations.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:43 pm to uway
Again, why would you assume that the president of the United States was publically calling for the national guard to move in and start murdering looters? That's an insane conclusion to jump to.
How is that more plausible than potus articulating the fact that these riots ALWAYS lead to gunfire? (Koreans after LA, Dallas, BR, etc... ) and the guard would be sent in to prevent this type of violent escalation?
Turn off CNN and come back rational thought. This is the drinking clorox stupidity all over again.
How is that more plausible than potus articulating the fact that these riots ALWAYS lead to gunfire? (Koreans after LA, Dallas, BR, etc... ) and the guard would be sent in to prevent this type of violent escalation?
Turn off CNN and come back rational thought. This is the drinking clorox stupidity all over again.
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:44 pm to Taxing Authority
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the idea he was encouraging it to happen is just as silly as taking his injection comment literally.
It wasn't a comment, it was a question, and how the frick do you figuratively inject something??
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:45 pm to uway
quote:I don't think it is being charitable at all. I think it's being accurate based on basic reading comprehension skills. You always have to consider the context to understand meaning, or in other words, "text without context is pretext". The last phrase is being lifted from the context to muddy the meaning of the entire message.
That is absolutely the most charitable reading of the tweet.
Nobody against Trump and lots of undecideds aren't going to be that charitable.
Personally I think that, at best, he was setting a trap by being ambiguous, but that is granting him some 3D chess powers, even though in this case it would be a bad 3D chess move.
Trump even clarified what he meant, which means that those who used context got the correct meaning of his words while those who didn't, did not.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:49 pm to bmy
why are you laughing? you think black people getting shot during riots is funny you racist shite?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:52 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I won't even try to gauge Pres Trump's sincerity, but I am glad he clarified and/or followed up on his tweet from yesterday.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:55 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Honor the memory of George Floyd!
Wasn’t this guy a frickin felon? What memory? Forgery and robbery?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:57 pm to Choctaw
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why are you laughing? you think black people getting shot during riots is funny you racist shite?
Do you think only blacks are looting?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 2:57 pm to FooManChoo
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don't think it is being charitable at all. I think it's being accurate based on basic reading comprehension skills. You always have to consider the context to understand meaning, or in other words, "text without context is pretext". The last phrase is being lifted from the context to muddy the meaning of the entire message.
This only makes a little bit of sense if you are talking about the broader context in which the tweet took place, ie that it was the POTUS talking, and it would be wild of him to threaten to have the NG shoot people for theft.
If you're only talking about the context within the tweet, you are laughably wrong.
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