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re: It is important to keep Wuhan or China in the name of the virus

Posted on 3/11/20 at 9:26 am to
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 9:26 am to
Also, did you know that the Japanese have a dolphin-stabbing festival every year?

That area of the globe is fricked in the head.
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3517 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 9:32 am to
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Catfish and lobsters don't have the same CNS or pain receptors that a dog has.


What about a pig, cow or chicken? Face it people eat different things in different regions because they have different plants and animals in different regions. There are 350 wet markets in all of China and only 1 level 4 bio lab that was studying cornavirus in bats that happens to be located in Wuhan. What seems more statistically significant?
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24848 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 9:37 am to
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What about a pig, cow or chicken? Face it people eat different things in different regions because they have different plants and animals in different regions.


It is asinine to say that we eat pig cow or chicken alive or cause the most amount of pain possible to the animals.

You are wrong. Run with your lab hypothesis, but it doesn't change the fact that the wet markets are disgusting and barbaric.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 9:39 am to
"fresh" is important in Chinese markets. The population does not trust frozen meat. They want to see blood oozing out of the meat they buy. They like to see fish killed and cleaned as they buy it. One market I went into had a large tank of large mouth bass. (It is silly here not to let farm raised bass and sac a lait be sold.)
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 9:44 am to
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There are 350 wet markets in all of China and only 1 level 4 bio lab that was studying cornavirus in bats that happens to be located in Wuhan. What seems more statistically significant?
Especially given that the genetic match with pangolin coronavirus is only 91% (original erroneous reports were 99%), whereas the bat match is 96% as I recall.

Scientists are having REAL trouble finding an actual match anywhere, thus far.

The earlier “99% match” came from the Chinese government. Misinformation?
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 9:45 am
Posted by sportjunkie69
Member since Nov 2012
2145 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 9:52 am to
The CPAC Virus is spreading rapidly in Louisiana. Call your representative and demand the CDC make more CPAC Virus tests available now!
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3517 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:10 am to
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It is asinine to say that we eat pig cow or chicken alive


I'm fairly ignorant on this subject as I havn't lived in China but it is my understanding they buy the live animals so they are fresh. Then they cook them, which I do know kills pathogens including corona viruses. Do you have any sources of people actually eating live or raw animals as common practice in China?
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24848 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:17 am to
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Srobi14


videos if you want to google them. I am not venturing down that path again. Give dog meat festival a go if you wish as well.
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3517 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:31 am to
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videos if you want to google them.


I mean there's videos of Americans shooting bottle rockets from their a-hole, that doesn't mean that is the norm. here on the 4th of july. There is all kinds of videos of people doing crazy shite but I mean is there real documentation or even anecdotal evidence that eating raw wild animals is the general practice or is it that they cook them fresh like we do with lobster and crawfish?
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:42 am to
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Furthermore this opened my eyes to the actual "dog meat festival" that they hold and how disgusting of a culture this is.


So we need to make everyone like America?
A cow is OK in your superior view, but a dog isn't?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125405 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:43 am to
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You call it barbaric and disgusting to eat living wild animals. How is that different than hunters in the US? We hunt and eat wild animals all the time.




bc they are eating wild exotics not meant for human consumption

that and the wet markets are fricking gross
Posted by PickupAutist
Member since Sep 2018
3022 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:47 am to
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What about a pig, cow or chicken? Face it people eat different things in different regions because they have different plants and animals in different regions.


Pigs, cows, and chickens have been bred by mankind specifically for consumption over thousands of years. Eating a bat that been living in its shite for two months is not the same. Neither is using communal plastic meat buckets full of blood sitting on the ground or tarps that are never washed that everyone puts their hands in. The bubonic plague, SARS, Spanish flu, and this covid shite all originated from China.

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So we need to make everyone like America? A cow is OK in your superior view, but a dog isn't?


Again, eating an animal specifically bred for consumption is the same as eating dog meat because moral relativism or something.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 10:49 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:47 am to
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a huge spotlight needs to be shown on the disgusting and barbaric practice of eating living wild animals.


They are eating live animals? shite. Must be a hell of a thing trying to keep them on the plate.

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Furthermore this opened my eyes to the actual "dog meat festival" that they hold and how disgusting of a culture this is.


Well, you either starve or eat dog meat. Your choice.

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It is not racist to call out the need to change their culture that puts the whole world at risk.



Again, live in a 3rd world for a few years, then you can protest the poor. Because you are essentially calling for poor people to eat better, when that is not an option.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:49 am to
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hat they many times skin them alive, or even bite into (the smaller) creatures while they are still living.




Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
14865 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:50 am to
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BugAC


We got a Zip in the wire.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22526 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:50 am to
They have animals living in small cages that are stacked on top of one another. Plenty of the animals there are covered in feces and urine because of this. They kill and prepare the animal right there before you if you want. And you damn well know many aren’t wearing hairnets, gloves, aprons, etc.

Animals like bats also carry lots of diseases.

They also have raw meat hanging out in the open.

This doesn’t represent most Chinese, but there’s still millions of people that visit these markets. They’re massive. In addition China is extremely crowded which allows diseases to spread easily.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:50 am to
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the barbaric practices should be shunned


Shun all you want. You live in a country with a billion people and can't feed yourself, then yes. You will eat whatever is in front of you.

Maybe you can go find some pigmy culture in some indonesian rain forest and wag your finger at them too.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 10:51 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:53 am to
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bc they are eating wild exotics not meant for human consumption


Says who? Biology disagrees with you. Just because you think it's cute or pretty doesnt' mean it isn't edible.

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that and the wet markets are fricking gross



I'm not disagreeing with you. Living in a first world country, i find many 3rd world civilizations and their practices "gross". But, if you've never been starving, you can't really judge.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:53 am to
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We got a Zip in the wire.


Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22526 posts
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:54 am to
India is just as crowded and even more poor but they don’t eat all kinds of bush meat. According to some Chinese, it’s mostly the older/traditional Chinese that have things like the dog festival.
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