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re: ‘It is full blown crisis already’ farmers say

Posted on 4/29/25 at 2:41 pm to
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 2:41 pm to
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Peter meant to say the Mega Conglomerates like ADM, Cargill, and Koch

These and other such entities will continue to sell to China but the cargos will be consigned to other destinations before being "resold" by the original "purchaser" and the shipments redirected to China thru various devious manipulations. Maybe the vessel has to lay up for a couple of days in an intermediary port to make it look right on the books, but the cargo stays on board and is "resold" by that original "buyer" to avoid the politics.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6157 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 2:44 pm to
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Of course farms get subsidies to grow corn for ethanol


no they don't
Show me what usda program gives ethanol subsidies

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corporate farms but those corporate farms aren’t singular farms in many instances. They are 3-4 large farms consolidated under a corporation to produce said corn for said corporation at the expense of the corporation which receives subsidies that they pass on to the farmers


Give me a real life example of this
If this is happening all over - it shouldn't be hard to find
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
64515 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 2:56 pm to
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For highly perishable crops it’s a challenge. Margins are low to begin with and with costs going higher on all fronts it makes it difficult to plan. If we lose markets we’ll have a glut of product needing to find a home and quickly. In those situations it causes prices to crash. That puts growers in quite the predicament. Sell at a partial loss, or much smaller margin (which will crack double digits in a good market) and lessening your profits, or in a worst case scenario not selling it and eating all of the losses because the market is flooded to begin with. As a result the food supply becomes unstable in the following years because they’ve lost money and they can’t just eat the losses. So they plant less acreage.


And what about annual equipment payments that you have no revenue to help pay? What about property taxes or land payments that are due regardless? If you are a farmer who rents ground you either have to pay the rent without any revenue or let the ground go and not have it to farm the next year
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18512 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 3:03 pm to
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no they don't Show me what usda program gives ethanol subsidies


Correct. Most subsidies are based on benchmarks for crop pricing. Market prices fall below the benchmark, the farmers can apply for the subsidies to make up the difference.
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
3008 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 9:03 am to
Too much welfare for farmers. Instead of helping family farms, we are subsidizing corporations.

Time to cut back or stop the practice.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2245 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 9:06 am to
Cattle prices are high right now so it obviously isn't effecting every aspect.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10604 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 9:22 am to
How come this shite thread is not anchored while the idiocy about the markets in April was?
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18512 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 10:19 am to
Seen a lot of farms selling off cattle at the current prices to offset losses in the grains.
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