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re: Israel's war

Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:39 am to
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
2645 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:39 am to
No matter what Netanyahu did. He did not fund Iran. Democrats and Massie funded Iran. October 7th and the 350 attacks on U.S. soldiers was a direct result of that funding. I cant begin to tell you how much that pisses me off. Our politicians purchased the weapons to allow a country to attack our own soldiers and how this is not a huge conversation blows my mind. Israel should be pissed off because it also funded every attack on them.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10744 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:48 am to
Oct 7th was an attack from Hamas, who Bibi wanted in power. That's why I brought that up.

No doubt Iran used that money to make more weapons. Again, though, if this was about Iran going after our military, then why didn't we lead? Why did Rubio say we reacted to what Israel did?

Posted by ricker300
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2007
390 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:50 am to
You are an arse ??
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
12915 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:53 am to
Punk…
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5658 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 4:54 am to
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The most significant being the nationalization of the Iranian oil industry, which is the cause of his begin removed


Few events in modern Middle Eastern history have left as deep a scar as the coup of August 1953 that toppled Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh.

For many Iranians, the coup became the symbol of Western betrayal, setting the stage for decades of anti-imperialism and fueling the anger that erupted in the 1979 revolution. The coup was not only a national trauma but also a case study in the collision of empire & oil politics.

In 1908 oil was struck in Khuzestan, and soon, (APOC, later Anglo-Iranian, today BP) was formed. During World War I and beyond, British interests in Iranian oil became strategic: the Royal Navy had converted its fleet from coal to oil, and APOC provided the supply.

The terms of the concession were notoriously exploitative. Iran received only a small royalty while APOC reaped immense profits.

When Reza Khan seized power in 1921 and became Reza Shah in 1925, he sought to modernize Iran and renegotiate the oil terms. In 1933 he signed a new concession with APOC, which provided somewhat better royalties but extended British control for another 60 years. Nationalists saw this as another betrayal.

Mohammad Mosaddegh (1882–1967) was an aristocratic landowner, educated in Europe, and a passionate constitutionalist. He entered politics during the constitutional movement and became known for his integrity and nationalism. By the late 1940s he had emerged as leader of the National Front, a coalition of nationalists, intellectuals, and bazaar merchants.

Mosaddegh’s central demand was simple: Iran must control its own oil. In 1951, amid mounting anger at Anglo-Iranian’s monopoly, the Majles (parliament) voted to nationalize the oil industry. Mosaddegh became prime minister and implemented the law. For many Iranians, this was a moment of pride and sovereignty restored. Crowds chanted his name, and he became a national hero.

Britain reacted furiously. The Anglo-Iranian Oil Company lost its most valuable asset. London imposed a global boycott of Iranian oil, froze assets, and took the case to the International Court of Justice. The ICJ, however, ruled in 1952 that it had no jurisdiction.

By 1952–53, as the Cold War intensified, the balance shifted. Winston Churchill’s government lobbied President Eisenhower to intervene. With the Korean War still fresh and Stalin’s shadow looming, the Eisenhower administration became convinced that Mosaddegh might eventually tilt toward the Soviets.

Britain, desperate to preserve its declining Middle Eastern empire, persuaded Washington by framing the crisis as part of the global contest with Moscow.

The CIA, under Allen Dulles, and MI6 together devised a plan: Operation Ajax. Its aim was to depose Mosaddegh and strengthen the Shah. Kermit Roosevelt, a grandson of Theodore Roosevelt, was chosen to lead the covert operation in Tehran.

The plan involved propaganda, political manipulation, and street action. CIA and MI6 operatives funded opposition newspapers, spread disinformation, and bribed politicians, clerics, and military officers. They portrayed Mosaddegh as a communist sympathizer and a threat to Islam.















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Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
2645 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 5:08 am to
The intelligence was that Iran was going to launch another attack soon. It was better to launch attacks and try to take out those missiles and drones on the ground to limit the loss of life. It was the right decision. However when it comes to Netanyahu, again he did not lift sanctions on Iran. Biden did.
Posted by FireawayLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2023
1838 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 5:44 am to
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Our government is Israel's bitch, so when Israel said it's go time, our government obediently obliged.


This is the second dumbest take the DNC has sent out in mass email for yall to regurgitate. The first one is “Trumps War”.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71801 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 5:49 am to
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The intelligence was that Iran was going to launch another attack soon.


It is unbelievable to me that people still gobble up this propaganda. No they weren’t.

I just don’t understand why some of you have such blind faith in the government after Covid.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19949 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 5:52 am to
Ike overthrowing the elected Mossadegeh, thanks to Kermit Rooosevelt III caused all of this.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19949 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 5:53 am to
Reagan was warned by numerous mid east officials that was a dumb move.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10744 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 5:57 am to
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This is the second dumbest take the DNC has sent out in mass email for yall to regurgitate. The first one is “Trumps War”.


Everyone's posts in here are public. Thumb through mine and let me know how in the frick you think I could be a Democrat, or a leftist of any stripe.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9254 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 5:57 am to
Read

Something you demonstrate you are incapable of doing. Democrats set the stage and a Republican White House is taking out the trash.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19949 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 6:01 am to
Who founded Hezbollah?
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
1917 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 6:02 am to
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No…. This is the CIA’s Mess.


This is the correct answer.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
472392 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 6:03 am to
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You must be young. This is Jimmy Carter's mess and for 47 plus years this Imperialist regime has had but two objectives - annihilation of Israel and the humbling of America.


quote:

DJT is ending a war they began 47 years ago. Peace is impossible when one's adversary has no desire for another to exist.


How do you feel about the "Deep State"?
Posted by Tiger n Austin
Austin, Tx
Member since Dec 2005
6840 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 6:18 am to
Dude,for once just own this shite. Stop deflecting and misplacing blame on someone or something else.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
64653 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 6:24 am to
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No matter what Netanyahu did. He did not fund Iran
No he funded Hamas.
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Democrats and Massie funded Iran
Huh? Y'all have Massie on the brain.
quote:

350 attacks on U.S. soldiers
Huh? That's the 4th different number of attacks I've read.

The Izrul propaganda is strong on this board.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85932 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 6:39 am to
The “ Israel’s War” crowd is scrambling so hard to fit their square peg into the round hole, maniacally forgetting everything we know about Iran’s conduct over a half century ago- the marine barracks , the hostages, the CIA station chief, the IED war in Iraq, on and on.

At this point it’s clinical.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
15208 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 6:44 am to
I don't feel about anything, preferring knowledge, and what we see is not necessarily truth.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127509 posts
Posted on 3/4/26 at 6:48 am to
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Had the CIA left Iran alone, and hadn’t raped iran’s oil for Britain & American use, radicalism in Iran would never had incurred.


This is mental midget territory.
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