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re: Israel Defense Force murders 4 children

Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:12 am to
Posted by rtts48
Member since Jul 2014
350 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:12 am to
absolutely no excuse for this incident at all since there was no firing and no weapons with the victims being 4 feet tall. It's a crime against humanity yet so many here are gleeful.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73506 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:14 am to
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yet so many here are gleeful.
Posted by rtts48
Member since Jul 2014
350 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:15 am to
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We NUKED Japan's non-combatants, for military ends. It's war. End of debate.

.."when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews..."


so if the US can nuke non-combatants, according to your perverted view on life, why can't the Arabs nuke the non-combatant Jews?
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 8:16 am
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
35054 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:16 am to
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absolutely no excuse for this incident at all since there was no firing and no weapons with the victims being 4 feet tall. It's a crime against humanity yet so many here are gleeful.


"gleeful"...is a leap, rt. Realistic is more accurate. Only a fool would rejoice at this stuff. Kids playing on a beach. Come on dude...the Board needs honesty.



Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126994 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:17 am to
What is your solution to how the Israelis should be handling the Gaza violence?

Your really good at criticizing. Now come up with a workable solution.
Posted by rtts48
Member since Jul 2014
350 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:17 am to
well, they were playing on the beach. Even schools are not all closed in Gaza, life is going on despite the shelling. Honesty? When some fools claim the pics are faked? Roll Damn Tide!
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9635 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:18 am to
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When the civilians are warned, where do you think they should go?


Well if Hamas is going to start wars, maybe they should provide bomb shelters for these people. But then they would probably use those for military purposes too.

I feel terrible for the innocents in Gaza. They are used as pawns by the Arab powers, who could provide them with a more than adequate life.

The Arab powers want the fighting to continue. It diverts the radicals from going after them. The poor civilians are just caught in the middle.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52951 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:19 am to
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joshnorris14


Here's the thing. No one thinks the death of these children are a good thing, or is justified in any way. You'd have to be a monster to think that.

The problem is your hypocrisy. I don't recall you ever making threads when innocent Israeli children are killed in war. Also, you paint this out, as if the Israeli's specifically targeted these children. That's completely false.

Like it or not, but Israel/Hamas are at war. And war is terrible. It would be great if only military killed other military, and innocent people were never harmed. But that is never the case on either side.

In short, you are being hypocritical. The only way for you to save face is if you rightly post about the death of Israeli innocents as well. And preferably in the same thread on the same first page. The death of children is awful. Whether the kids or Israeli, Palestinian, Muslim, or Jews, no matter how you cut it it's terrible. Don't be a hack, though, and act as if only children on one side is being killed. That makes you look like equally despicable as those you claim don't care about palestinian children.
Posted by rtts48
Member since Jul 2014
350 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:22 am to
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The only way for you to save face is if you rightly post about the death of Israeli innocents as well.


except that has nothing to do with this incident
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:22 am to
Where were the Israeli guns located such that they would have had a line of sight to the children to be able to see them and then adjust their aim to hit the children? They would have to have been really close to the target. Why are there no photos of the guns who did the firing? If they were close enough to see the beach they would have been close enough to be seen from the beach. The noise of the gun firing would have revealed the location to the multiple photographers at the scene.

How can we tell there were more than one photographer on the scene? The perspectives of photos 1 and 2 are almost at 90 degree angles to each other. So there was considerable distance between the locations from which the photographs were taken given the time frame involved. Also the photo of the children running just before death is from a perspective that is not in the direction they were running toward. It appears closer to the perspective of photo 1.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45303 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:22 am to
It would only be hypocritical if I didn't oppose the death of those Israelis.

One doesn't have to vocally issue their opposition to every innocent death in the world ton avoid hypocrisy, I point out this situation because I am surrounded by Israeli worshipping racists.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 8:24 am
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
35054 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:23 am to
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well, they were playing on the beach. Even schools are not all closed in Gaza, life is going on despite the shelling. Honesty? When some fools claim the pics are faked? Roll Damn Tide!


rt...it is well known that Hama STRATEGICALLY uses women and children as HUMAN SHIELDS/propaganda tools, placing them around high-priority targets.

Like Netanyahu said..."we use missiles to protect our citizens and they use their citizens to protect their missiles".

The Israelis had everything to lose and nothing to gain by purposely hitting those kids. This whole thread is a propaganda flame.

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52951 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:23 am to
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except that has nothing to do with this incident


You mean it has nothing to do with his narrative.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52951 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:25 am to
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One doesn't have to vocally issue their opposition to every innocent death in the world ton avoid hypocrisy


You do when you start threads condemning Israel for the deaths of 4 children, but never start threads about Palestinians killing children.

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I point out this situation because I am surrounded by Israeli worshipping racists.




Well now you are being a hack. Congrats!
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126994 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:26 am to
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I am surrounded by Israeli worshipping racists.
So you're saying there a Jews in Florida?!

No way!!!!
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45303 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:27 am to
Do you usually believe the propaganda of socialists?

The children lived nearby, their parents are fishermen
Posted by rtts48
Member since Jul 2014
350 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:27 am to
no, it has nothing to do with this incident. You are changing the narrative to soften the IDF guilt.

Fact is, there was no firing and no weapons and the IDF admitted shooting, to those who doubt the source of gunfire.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45303 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:29 am to
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So you're saying there a Jews in Florida?!


What?

I'm talking about the "conservatives" who favor the genocide of Palestinians
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52951 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:33 am to
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no, it has nothing to do with this incident. You are changing the narrative to soften the IDF guilt.


No, you just don't like hearing both sides of the story.

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Fact is, there was no firing and no weapons and the IDF admitted shooting, to those who doubt the source of gunfire.


Why are you completely leaving out all of the events of the past 3 weeks that is the reason for these attacks on both sides? You act as if Israel saw children on the beach and said, "let's get em". As much as you loathe the Jews in Israel, they are not the monsters you think they are.

I am not excusing this incident, but you are being dishonest if you ignore the history of these countries.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126994 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 8:33 am to
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"conservatives" who favor the genocide of Palestinians

You're dumb if you believe that.
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