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Is Trump electable?
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:47 am
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:47 am
I know this will bring the down-votes but it's a serious question. He's lost a lot of support since the last election. Once a candidate loses a voter, it's almost impossible to win them back. I don't see how he has any chance whatsoever of winning the general election. Here are my basic observations:
- The entire left hates him - he won't get any of these votes and they will show up in force to the polls just to oppose him
- He's lost the middle due to his mouth and just general Trump fatigue - He will get very few of these votes
- He's lost a lot of support on the right due to his continued support for the vaccines among other things - He will still get most of these but not as many as in the past two elections
I personally know many people that voted for him twice and refuse to vote for him again.
I am afraid that he will have just enough of the primary votes to win the nomination, but he will likely lose in a landslide to someone like Newsom. This is how we end up with Gavin Newsom as President for 8 years, and it sucks to know this ahead of time.
These are my thoughts. You are entitled to your own, but as I said above, I see no way that Trump can win the general election even before any cheating is involved by the Democrats.
- The entire left hates him - he won't get any of these votes and they will show up in force to the polls just to oppose him
- He's lost the middle due to his mouth and just general Trump fatigue - He will get very few of these votes
- He's lost a lot of support on the right due to his continued support for the vaccines among other things - He will still get most of these but not as many as in the past two elections
I personally know many people that voted for him twice and refuse to vote for him again.
I am afraid that he will have just enough of the primary votes to win the nomination, but he will likely lose in a landslide to someone like Newsom. This is how we end up with Gavin Newsom as President for 8 years, and it sucks to know this ahead of time.
These are my thoughts. You are entitled to your own, but as I said above, I see no way that Trump can win the general election even before any cheating is involved by the Democrats.
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 8:49 am
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:48 am to Landmass
he lost to a barely walking corpse. you tell me.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:49 am to Landmass
You either think they cheated to steal it from him and he won in 20. (In which case nothing would have changed for 24).
Or
He legitimately lost and can't win.
Everyone has their mind made up already on the fraud issue so this question is moot.
Or
He legitimately lost and can't win.
Everyone has their mind made up already on the fraud issue so this question is moot.
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 8:50 am
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:49 am to Landmass
... a 3rd time?
(because he's won twice already)
(because he's won twice already)
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:50 am to Landmass
I don't think the vaccine thing is going to move conservatives away from him. The real issue is TDS soccer moms and (a) could someone like Ron swing them over and (b) would that outweigh Trump's ability to pull votes from factory/construction baws in the rust belt that you'd lose with another candidate?
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:50 am to Landmass
I didnt vote in the 2016 due to not being registered where I lived at the time (college) but voted for trump in 2020. Im not "antitrump" at all and would gladly vote for him again if he wins the nomination in '24. That being said I would probably rather see someone else get the nomination for the reasons you're saying. Im not sure he can win another general election. Maybe I'm wrong, IDK, but I just dont see it happening.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:50 am to 1999
quote:
he lost to a barely walking corpse.
No he didn’t.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:50 am to HottyToddy7
quote:
You either think they cheated to steal it from him and he won in 20. (In which case nothing would have changed for 24).
Or
He legitimately lost and can't win.
Everyone has their mind made up already on the fraud issue so this question is moot.
Those are great points too.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:51 am to Landmass
No, I thought he was a good president but that well is poisoned. He cant win a general election in this country again. We’re lucky he won once.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:52 am to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:
(because he's won twice already)
Even if they cheated, he lost because he's not currently occupying the White House. Saying "he won" with bravado is good and all but it still ultimately means that he lost because they were able to pull it off.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:53 am to Bunk Moreland
quote:
I don't think the vaccine thing is going to move conservatives away from him.
He is actively losing people on the right and it's not a small number.
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 8:56 am
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:54 am to Landmass
TRUMP won the election.
The Joe was installed.
WE lost as a country.
The Joe was installed.
WE lost as a country.
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 8:56 am
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:57 am to Padme
quote:
Twice electable
This is irrelevant to my question. You're looking to the past. Do you think that Trump has won over more voters than he has lost since 2020? I don't see how that is possible.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:58 am to Landmass
quote:
Even if they cheated, he lost because he's not currently occupying the White House. Saying "he won" with bravado is good and all but it still ultimately means that he lost because they were able to pull it off.
So give up and give in? Be compliant to our globalist over-lords?
Posted on 1/20/23 at 8:59 am to Landmass
I see nothing between now and ‘24 that shows me the system is going to change itself. Those changes are going to have to come up through grassroots, local efforts throughout the country and will in all likelihood take well beyond 2024, if ultimately successful at all.
So with that in mind, he is certainly electable but the present power structure will never permit him to be elected again.
So with that in mind, he is certainly electable but the present power structure will never permit him to be elected again.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 9:00 am to Landmass
His strategy was to get loyalists into positions overseeing elections in the critical swing states, but they didn't elected, so it looks tough for him for the reasons you mention.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 9:01 am to 1999
quote:
he lost to a barely walking corpse. you tell me.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 9:01 am to Landmass
(no message)
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 9:09 am
Posted on 1/20/23 at 9:02 am to Landmass
The answer is no.
He simply draws out too many of the loons on the left and can’t get enough independents to vote for him even though voting for a racist guy with dementia like Biden was completely stupid.
He simply draws out too many of the loons on the left and can’t get enough independents to vote for him even though voting for a racist guy with dementia like Biden was completely stupid.
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