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Is this site legit to track the Coronavirus numbers? Worldometers.info

Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:25 pm
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:25 pm
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

This site has higher numbers than I’ve seen elsewhere, though not hugely different.

It updates quite often. Currently shows 1,747 cases with 41 deaths in the US.

Was curious if anyone has used this site before.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:26 pm to
I don't see any obvious issues with it

I've seen it before
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:29 pm to
Thanks. I’ve never seen it before so didn’t know if it was reliable at all.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:30 pm to
The only issue I have with the site is the depiction of the growth curves

And, the issue isn't really with the curves. It's with the fact that most people see a curve like that and don't actually understand it. So, it appears terrifying.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:32 pm to
I noticed that too. You can play with the graphs a bit, but they can look super alarming if you don’t understand what your looking at.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:34 pm to
quote:

I noticed that too. You can play with the graphs a bit, but they can look super alarming if you don’t understand what your looking at.


Yeah.

And, it's not really a knock on the site.

But, I don't think most people understand that an exponential growth curve doesn't have to just keep it's upward swing. If it did, then regardless of growth rate, eventually, everyone dies if the rate is above 1.0.

There's an inflection point(s curve) and where THAT occurs is the important thing to know or, if you don't know, be aware of.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 10:36 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:42 pm to
quote:

Currently shows 1,747 cases with 41 deaths in the US.



Those overall numbers look right. There was a spike today in new cases, primarily out of New York State - they are in striking distance of Washington.

Also, I pretty much discount Washington State in calculating a real-time CFR from the snapshot of numbers.

The rest of the nation is under a 1% (right now) if you do that - ~10 deaths to 1300 or so cases (outside WA). Those numbers will continue to rise, but everyone fully expects the death rate to flatten out. How low it goes, ultimately? We will have to see.

The economic damage we face is unprecedented - I don't think we closed this much for this long after 9/11. Probably not since WWII have we diverted this many resources from direct economic activity to a national priority.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:43 pm to
After reading their “about” page the site looks legit. Numbers look legit.

Good reference.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:45 pm to
Thanks
Posted by AUstar
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 11:29 pm to
Johns Hopkins runs the most accurate and up to date site.

LINK
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 11:32 pm to
I actually read an article today that a lot of those links to the John Hopkins sites aren’t secure and have malware on them. Like the one you just posted. It isn’t the same site as the original John Hopkins map. It may be the same map but on a different unsecured site.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 11:41 pm to
Also got a DoD notam stating the same, that those websites have malware, or let’s call them a virus. Hehe trying to learn about a virus and your computer gets a virus
Posted by FLTech
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Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:06 am to
I’m sure this is soooooooo accurate. Some random site putting up dumb random numbers that they just magically pulled out of their arse.

I’m in the web design business... there’s no fricking way in hell that they could easily pull all of this data (even with an API) and easily put up these numbers and keep it updated on a website. It’s not possible to keep accurate
Posted by RonLaFlamme
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Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:10 am to
I’ve been using this one - from Johns Hopkins

JHU - arcgis.com



I see someone else posted it too
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 12:11 am
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:32 am to
quote:

Was curious if anyone has used this site before.


Yes. I've linked this site multiple times.

I've also cross referenced it to numbers on other sites and it seems accurate.
Posted by Poncho and Lefty
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Member since Jul 2018
834 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:40 am to


It's not JUST the incompetence. It's the sheer scale of the incompetence.
Posted by MrLSU
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:40 am to
FYI China quit reporting numbers
Posted by RobbBobb
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:17 am to
The numbers are simply gonna be BS. They only delineate known cases. There are so many folks with mild to no symptoms, that they aren't even going to the Dr. And very much unlike the Spanish flu, you instantly knew if you had that

Within 6 days of 1st detection of Spanish flu there were over 6,000 cases in just one Army camp. There aren't 6,000 cases in all 50 states after 2 months of COVID19

With that in mind the infection rate will spike, but the mortality rate will plummet to flulike levels, when all is said and done
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:18 am to
I know the numbers aren’t accurate an representation for what’s on the ground. I was asking if it was accurate for what has been reported.
Posted by Jinglebob
Member since Jan 2020
948 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:27 am to
That site has a lot of info.

Interesting that in the US there are 1 deaths each in SD, GA, NJ. 2 deaths in FL.

The rest are all CA (4) where the quarantined flights and cruise ships from Asia landed and WA (31) where a poorly run nursing home with a history of violations let it run rampant for several weeks.

5 total deaths outside of two outlier states.
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