re: Is there scientific proof that masks are effective

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People still don’t realize that the air that we exhale has moisture and it’s a within the moisture that the masks block the transmission.

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Then we have your assurance that you'll wear a mask in public until your ultimate demise?

Absurd

As long as there is no cure for Covid and I see it as a risk around certain people then I will wear a mask as a courtesy

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Well, he is a doctor so I will go with probably, maybe he is the intelligent one in the thread. I'm a viral load guy.

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If you haven’t noticed, being a doctor means absolutely nothing from a credibility standpoint with regards to covid 19. Good try though. The fact that neither of you “doctors” are able to even offer a factual refute to just about anything in this thread posted by me and others supports that.

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Will protection reduce the possibility of infection and possibly reduce your viral load? Absolutely!

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Prove it viral load guy. With data.

Lucky for me I’m too respectful, young and healthy to contract or spread Covid so I don’t have to worry about wearing a mask “to protect others”. My wife works in healthcare, got tested and was positive about a month ago.

Being that we live alone together I 100% caught it unless my immune system is so strong that it prevented me from catching it. Either way I was 100% symptom free although out of respect I self quarantined for a couple weeks with her. Had I had it and went out though I wouldn’t have been a danger to anyone because I don’t care about any stranger enough out and about to hang around on top of them for minutes at a time or touch them, lick them, etc.

Being a symptomless carrier, according to all medical studies, it’d be highly unlikely that I would have spread it to anyone. Symptomless transmission is rare and study after study including Dr. Fauci have said universal masking don’t do shite

ETA it’s funny seeing how worked up boomers get on both sides of the political aisle over it though. My wife’s MAGA uncle basically had a seizure knowing that we had it a month ago and went over to his house this past weekend. Dumb puss

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We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection

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Now I want you to consider how f**king stupid that statement is.

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It is a direct quote from the source listed as proof that masks help outside of the hospital environment. That source is a perspective not a study or clinical study.

Have you seen strong evidence to support the masks outside of the hospital setting? I ask because I have not sought them out and have seen none presented. (Admit I have only read first few pages of this thread so maybe I will subsequently find them here.)

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It's not about oppression.

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It is oppression. You are using the power of the state to forcibly make someone wear something that they don't want to wear. Furthermore, when asked for scientific proof of the effectiveness of the masks, we get bullshite memes of people pissing their pants.

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People are just trying to do whatever they can to help the country get back to normal. If anything, it is just common courtesy and also a good way to not get coffee thrown on your face.

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Great. Wear a mask then. Stay indoors and social distant forever! Just don't force others to do so. It's that easy.

We all know that "talking" and "breathing" emits small amounts of moisture. My question, is whose faces are you in that closely where it is actually a risk? I somehow manage to make it thru entire days, weeks, months, without being less than a couple feet from any people other than my immediate family.

Do you stroll into a quik trip, get your sody-pop, and lurk around, breathing heavily, and asking questions to every employee at point-blank range?

It's such horseshiat. Why would it be so difficult to just let people choose (my body, my choice, right?). Wear one if you want, don't if you don't want to. If a store wants to force it, that's on them. I'll just go to the next store. Freedom. I won't yell at anyone about it, I won't ask to speak to the manager, I just won't come back. If you have little arrows telling me which way to shop, I'll just go somewhere else. My choice. It's not a political statement, it's just annoying as frick to need something halfway down an aisle, and be expected to go around to get it.

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We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection.

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Unsurprisingly, this blurb does not say what you think it says.

Unless one is wearing a custom-fitted respirator, self-protection from a mask is highly debatable at best. Masks do NOT protect the wearer from CV19. That is NOT the premise.

The premise is universal masking HELPS prevent aerosolized viral transmission. That's it. That premise is not only true, it is not debatable.

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universal masking alone is not a panacea. A mask will not protect providers caring for a patient with active Covid-19 if it’s not accompanied by meticulous hand hygiene, eye protection, gloves, and a gown. A mask alone will not prevent health care workers with early Covid-19 from contaminating their hands and spreading the virus to patients and colleagues.

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An unmasked cough generates a 12ft plume (a sneeze travels 2X that distance)



Here are comparable coughs with various masks in place:

(1) A cone-style mask -- 8 inch plume


(2) A standard mask -- 2.5 inch plume


(3) Coughing through doubled handkerchief or scarf material -- 15 in plume


But ALL these facial coverings allow some pass-thru. So as soon as an infected person touches his mask, he has a viral load on his hands. Hence, masking is not a panacea.

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Until then, mask up, social distance and wash your hands.

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Because that's what we are told to do, right?

Doesn't matter if it works or not... just do as your told. At the very least... it makes other people feel better, right?