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re: Is the Trump administration really firing park rangers and national park employees?

Posted on 2/18/25 at 2:01 am to
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
32903 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 2:01 am to
These aren’t these same thing at all, and I don’t agree with either decisions.
Posted by Nikki_T
Newport Beach
Member since Feb 2021
672 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 3:38 am to
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How is Nature supposed to nature without them


Our national parks have always been cared after by volunteers from conservation organizations such as The Sierra Club, Friends of Acadia, the Yosemite Conservancy, National Parks Conservation Association, Yellowstone Forever, The Conservation Fund, etc.

Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39057 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 3:46 am to
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Being able to disappear into the mountains for a couple weeks a year is imperative to my mental health.


You don't need 12 DEI hires surrounding you while you hike to accomplish that. Ergo disappearing.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59317 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 3:49 am to
You think only diversity, equity and inclusion hires are being fired? lol.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59317 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 3:56 am to
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Not at all. We are down sizing. Get over it.


Except instead of paying people to do a job, we’re going to pay them to not do a job via unemployment and severances. And this is how we MAGA!




This post was edited on 2/18/25 at 4:12 am
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
4042 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 3:58 am to
I hope so. And sell the land
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11213 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 4:14 am to
Have only seen a couple posts about this and they appear to be written by the same person with no indication the employees are probationary.

If the conservation groups care so much, then raise private money to support our parks. Get some of that college endowment money and parter with universities.

Love our national parks but cuts should impact everyone. There is waste everywhere.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11213 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 4:27 am to
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“The department determined that you have failed to demonstrate fitness or qualifications for continued employment because your subject matter knowledge, skills and abilities do not meet the department’s current needs,” read the email, which was sent to Ms. Dhue while she was in the air. (She later obtained a printed copy of the email from her boss.)
. Letter one received.

They leave out that most are young or probationary.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65264 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 4:33 am to
bullshite. Most of the park employees are assholes. Always telling me what to do before I even do it. frick them
Posted by SligoTiger
South of I-10
Member since Jun 2023
195 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 5:00 am to
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. A lot of these probationary hires were probably Biden DEI hires anyway.


“Probably” is doing all the work in this sentence.

My sister recently retired after 35 years with the National Park Service. She says the cuts are hitting capable, dedicated employees and are being executed terribly.

She said a great myth about working for the federal government is that agencies thrive under Democratic administrations and suffer under Republican administrations. The opposite is often true. As a result, she has always said the number of federal employees who vote Republican is way higher than most people realize.

Doing something difficult and necessary for a noble purpose is one thing. Doing it like a freaking idiot is something else entirely.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12629 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 5:19 am to
Folks...it's a 5% reduction in force.

Nothing is closing down for this.

Also,
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According to recent reports, the National Park Service experienced a significant hiring shift in 2020, with around 1,000 employees being fired while simultaneously rehiring approximately 5,000 others, resulting in a net increase of roughly 4,000 new employees across the system


The number is still up by 3000 from 2020

Also, they will still be hiring 5000 seasonal employees.

This is not the mountain you think it is.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 5:25 am to
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Maybe she will work her was back to a job.


If she is really as good as claimed, maybe she will be hired back.

With federal employees, you either have to fire everyone or no one due to "seniority" rules. Fire them all, then hire back the ones you want to keep.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12629 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 5:26 am to
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You think only diversity, equity and inclusion hires are being fired?

Probably not but if it's a last hired-first fired thing the chances are better than not. Biden era bullshite and all that.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
5406 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 5:35 am to
It is very difficult to legally fire federal employees who are not on probation. That is why the probationary employees are getting shitcanned first
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
21024 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 6:02 am to
It seems like the job would be seasonal with the states doing most of the hiring. I see keeping a couple on the federal side to oversee fire control but for the most part they just seem nonessential.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71144 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 6:24 am to
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hope so. And sell the land


That an appalling idea. Disgusting. Our national parks are spectacular.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71144 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 6:27 am to
No but I do enjoy my time outdoors to be free of junkies and trash.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57264 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:45 am to
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What a stupid thing to say. Have you been anywhere in the NW outside of Seattle?


Irrelevant. His post was specific to Seattle.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18920 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:45 am to
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You have the finger on the pulse of conservatives about as much as a trans teenage boy


Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57264 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:48 am to
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Trump is about to cut $3T more in tax revenue than the actual programs they cut.


No he isn’t. You moron.
This post was edited on 2/18/25 at 8:49 am
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