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re: Is the system we use to hire presidents broken?
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:39 am to fjlee90
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:39 am to fjlee90
"The only people who should be able to vote are the following:
Employed in the private sector
Active military
Veterans
Retirees
Business owners"
This is dumb. Given these requirements, a firefighter employed by a city or county cannot vote, nor a policeman.
Also, what is the definition of retiree? Is a 68 yr old who lives off of social security and other government hand-outs retired?
And veterans?? Do you know how many veterans live off of government assistance and food stamps?
Employed in the private sector
Active military
Veterans
Retirees
Business owners"
This is dumb. Given these requirements, a firefighter employed by a city or county cannot vote, nor a policeman.
Also, what is the definition of retiree? Is a 68 yr old who lives off of social security and other government hand-outs retired?
And veterans?? Do you know how many veterans live off of government assistance and food stamps?
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Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:43 am to TrueTiger
Based off the last two decades of presidential candidates, I’d say broken is an understatement.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:46 am to nealnan8
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And veterans?? Do you know how many veterans live off of government assistance and food stamps
Maybe they’ve earned that.
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a firefighter employed by a city or county cannot vote, nor a policeman
I know. Those who are paid by the government are influenced to expand government on their behalf. Take teachers. The most ‘conservative’ of teachers in Denham Springs got up in arms when a pay raise was voted down. They will always vote in their interest. Now… in exchange for this, I’d also recommend that these people are exempt from income taxes. their pensions should not be subject to taxes either. They are performing a service to society. They should not be penalized for that.
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Is a 68 yr old who lives off of social security and other government hand-outs retired?
Social security isn’t a hand out. That 68 year old paid for it. But SS should be eliminated entirely and we should be able to keep that money. Someone who has met a predefined number of years of employment and then retires should then be allowed to vote. It’s not difficult.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:47 am to fjlee90
"quote:
with a minimum IQ of 130.
Trying to eliminate yourself from the voting pool, eh?"
HA!
There are about 340,000,000 people in the US and I would guess that about 300,000,000 have an IQ lower than 130. I'm not trying to be funny, here...I'm serious.
with a minimum IQ of 130.
Trying to eliminate yourself from the voting pool, eh?"
HA!
There are about 340,000,000 people in the US and I would guess that about 300,000,000 have an IQ lower than 130. I'm not trying to be funny, here...I'm serious.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:49 am to nealnan8
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There are about 340,000,000 people in the US and I would guess that about 300,000,000 have an IQ lower than 130. I'm not trying to be funny, here...I'm serious.
130 is where the bell curve approaches zero. It’s actually around 333,000,000 people who have an IQ below 130 (if 340,000,000 is the population). Around 2.1% have an IQ over 130.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:51 am to nealnan8
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There are about 340,000,000 people in the US and I would guess that about 300,000,000 have an IQ lower than 130. I'm not trying to be funny, here...I'm serious
More, likely. It’s somewhere in the ballpark of less than 5% above 130 worldwide. Probability isn’t on his side.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:52 am to the808bass
quote:Basically correct. The 2.1% is limited to the people within the third standard deviation, and excludes those higher. Everyone above 130 would thus be closer to 2.2% of the population
130 is where the bell curve approaches zero. It’s actually around 333,000,000 people who have an IQ below 130 (if 340,000,000 is the population). Around 2.1% have an IQ over 130.
Setting the baseline at the intersection of the third and fourth standard deviations would probably be better than at the intersection of the second and third, but that would be elitist and would exclude a fairly large number of fairly bright potential voters.
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 9:01 am
Posted on 8/5/23 at 7:54 am to nealnan8
Why can’t you people use the freaking quote feature?
Old progressives suck.
Old progressives suck.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:04 am to AggieHank86
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with a minimum IQ of 130.
so mainly only ashkenazi Jews and Asians then
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:08 am to TrueTiger
How about this: we treat Presidential elections somewhat like the NCAA basketball tourney.
Divide the US into 8 regions (each region will have 6 or 7 states in it). Each region of the country would have it's own candidate, then a bracket would pit each region against another.
February
Match 1 -Region 1 vs 2
Match 2 -Region 3 vs 4
Match 3 -Region 5 vs 6
Match 4 -Region 7 vs 8
May
Match 5 - Match 1 winner vs Match 2 winner
Match 6 - Match 3 winner vs Match 4 winner
November
Match 5 vs Match 6 winner
3 rounds of voting, eliminate primaries. 8 candidates to start equal greater choice. Each regional elects their original candidate. In the Feb. round, voters can only vote in races that involve the region they live in.
In the May round, voters can only vote in the Match that included the region that it was originally involved in. In the November round, all voters can vote.
Just spitballing here...now tear into me!
Divide the US into 8 regions (each region will have 6 or 7 states in it). Each region of the country would have it's own candidate, then a bracket would pit each region against another.
February
Match 1 -Region 1 vs 2
Match 2 -Region 3 vs 4
Match 3 -Region 5 vs 6
Match 4 -Region 7 vs 8
May
Match 5 - Match 1 winner vs Match 2 winner
Match 6 - Match 3 winner vs Match 4 winner
November
Match 5 vs Match 6 winner
3 rounds of voting, eliminate primaries. 8 candidates to start equal greater choice. Each regional elects their original candidate. In the Feb. round, voters can only vote in races that involve the region they live in.
In the May round, voters can only vote in the Match that included the region that it was originally involved in. In the November round, all voters can vote.
Just spitballing here...now tear into me!
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:12 am to TrueTiger
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Our hiring system seems to give too much weight entertainers rather than competent executives.
Is that a product of allowing the least among us to have too much voice in the hiring process?
What are you talking about? There is one "entertainer" running that I can see, the rest are mostly long time party hacks.
Corporate money picks candidates. That's the broken aspect of the system. It's no longer a "by the people" government.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:15 am to nealnan8
I think we should drastically shorten the primary. It’s an antiquated system based on railroads and newspapers.
It would decrease the amount of money needed to win a nomination as well.
It would decrease the amount of money needed to win a nomination as well.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:22 am to AUCom96
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There is one "entertainer" running that I can see,
Because he's the one that understands what the hiring managers want and is giving it to them.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:34 am to TrueTiger
Maybe we should just pick them from a talent show.
Jk of course
Jk of course
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:35 am to TrueTiger
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Because he's the one that understands what the hiring managers want and is giving it to them.
That's why he's been impeached twice, has a library of smear books on him from other political figures, is being continually dragged through the legal system, had a million leaks in his administration and every corporate press runs 24/7 hate towards him?
I don't buy it.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:52 am to AUCom96
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That's why he's been impeached twice, has a library of smear books on him from other political figures, is being continually dragged through the legal system, had a million leaks in his administration and every corporate press runs 24/7 hate towards him?
No. Those are like consultants telling the hiring managers that they are wrong.
They get mad at the hiring managers but that doesn't help because the hiring managers just aren't very bright. They really should just be honest and point out that we need smarter hiring managers.
But that causes them cognitive dissonance because it violates all of their training that anything remotely resembling Jim Crow or questions the 19th Amendment is pure evil. This causes vapor lock in their brains and prevents them from being honest.
And round and round we go.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 8:54 am to TrueTiger
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Universal suffrage is a bad idea.
Agree 100%
The idea of "no taxation without representation" got a tad bit convoluted with the creation of the federal income tax. At this point, since everyone who produces anything is forced to pay Uncle Sam before anyone else out of his paycheck, I would like to see suffrage extended only to those who produce and pay taxes. If you're a net receiver of government funds rather than a provider, then you don't get to vote.
It's like poker. You don't get to play the hand unless you ante up.
The other solution to this would be to eliminate the federal income tax and force the federal government to raise revenue through other means of taxation and use of tariffs.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 9:00 am to AggieHank86
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no, just trying to set it low enough to let a few dumb people vote. I am very egalitarian that way
Slow down, Hank! You're making statements that are forcing me to give you multiple upvotes today. This is not something many (or any) of us here are used to.
Posted on 8/5/23 at 9:02 am to fjlee90
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Any idiot can own land. Voting should be done by those with skin in the game.
I hate to suddenly show up and have multiple posts in a row in a thread, but you do understand that owning land pretty much ensures that one has "skin in the game" right?
This is one reason I get extremely irritated by the endless calls from asshats offering to purchase my home when I have never once indicated that I have any intention of selling. My house and my real property ensure that I have skin in the game.
This post was edited on 8/5/23 at 9:05 am
Posted on 8/5/23 at 9:07 am to fjlee90
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The only people who should be able to vote are the following:
Land Owners
FIFY
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