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re: Is the dramatic increase in autism benefit related?
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:07 am to FriendofBaruch
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:07 am to FriendofBaruch
No one disputes pop tarts and other food are unhealthy. Let's just not make policy changes based on instragram threads
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Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:08 am to The Torch
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could proper testing account for some of the increases ?
Some. Not even the majority.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:08 am to Sweep Da Leg
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Meaning they were fine and hitting their milestones until they all of a sudden regressed mentally. That mean an environmental factor caused it.
There’s a reason the cdc wiped out the government database that had the records to do a study before RFK could get into it. Something to hide obviously. Ten minutes of research will tell you what it is
My child psychiatrist wife was 100% pro vaccine when she graduated med school 10 years ago. 10 years in the field and after seeing thousands of kid patients, she is convinced the MMR vaccine is the culprit for the dramatic rise in autism. She has done everything she can to believe the vaccine was completely safe but the facts she sees with her own eyes can't fool her anymore.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:09 am to crewdepoo
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Let's just not make policy changes based on instragram threads
What is a woman?
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:21 am to TBoy
quote:Not really because you're saying the same thing here...
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Is the dramatic increase in autism benefit related?
So fricking stupid
quote:You're talking about benefits and additional government dollars. And, you're correct that this is why we see them more often, they are mainstreamed.
At a certain point we started allowing these kids to go to “regular schools” and the special schools were closed. Due to the increased staffing required to have these kids at school, subsidies were given to the public schools, money that previously went to the operation of the “special schools.” We have also increased the opportunities for the entire disabled population to do things in public and not just be shut away.
This post was edited on 5/7/25 at 8:22 am
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:29 am to Willie Stroker
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1 in 30? Doesn’t that seem like an improbable frequency for a simple genetic variation?
If you count mild autism in that number that doesn’t really have significant detrimental effects? Sure. The problem is you think autism means they are all Rain Man. It doesn’t. It also doesn’t mean it is debilitating.
The boogy man by RFK and many of you is that somehow autism means all kids with the diagnosis are uncontrollable heathens with no social skills.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:32 am to funnystuff
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But it doesn’t explain why the rates on the most extreme, unequivocal, obvious variants of autism are also spiking so rapidly
How much have those gone up? Give a statistic specific to that? I have no doubt it likely had, but hard to sell it as an epidemic without the thousand fold increase RFK and other nut jobs use with just pure spectrum diagnosis.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:35 am to crewdepoo
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Try looking it up ever? Every thing rfk says his highly disputed by most "scientists".
FIFY
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:36 am to Pezzo
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where is the 1 in 30 nursing home residents who have autism?
Same place all those ADD boomers are. They learned to deal with their issue or accommodated for it.
Plenty of grown adults could easily be diagnosed with ADD or ADHD, but don’t because of the stigma and the fact they learned to adapt to their issue somewhat.
This is not to say the ridiculous over diagnosing of ADD and ADHD has not been a problem. It has for sure. The fact is parents simply dealt with the child in the past and didn’t use the diagnoses as an excuse or crutch.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:38 am to trinidadtiger
I know a bunch of adults who are undiagnosed, but no doubt on the spectrum.
There is more autism now, but when I was a kid, most people higher on the spectrum were never diagnosed.
There is more autism now, but when I was a kid, most people higher on the spectrum were never diagnosed.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:39 am to GTnerd
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My brother-in-law and his wife (both staunch “conservatives” btw)
Why do you think being conservative means not taking advantage of the system. It’s hilarious how much you think conservatives don’t abuse the system but only the other side does. Both sides are shite and both sides will take whatever benefit they can, deserving or needed or not.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:40 am to the808bass
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Some. Not even the majority.
And this is when you know you are talking to someone without an understanding of how diagnostic metrics work.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:41 am to crewdepoo
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Every thing rfk says his highly disputed by most scientists.
Same people that said covid vaccine is a vaccine and covid started in a fricking wet market. Eat shite
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:42 am to GTnerd
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y brother-in-law and his wife (both staunch “conservatives” btw) have an autistic son, he is highly autistic and is in special school and gets special treatments etc. Somebody told them to apply for medicare- they did and now get money to pay for the school, diapers, treatments etc and they are also now on WIC. Oh and they have a new baby now and are getting double the gov benefits even though the baby is normal. Both of these fricking people have great jobs in medical fields and do not need help paying for this shite, makes me sick.
You are 100% full of shite. That's not at all how it works.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:46 am to LNCHBOX
Where are all of these benefits y’all speak of? I have a kid on the spectrum, and have received zero benefits.
Where do I get my check?
Where do I get my check?
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:49 am to BhamTigah
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Where are all of these benefits y’all speak of? I have a kid on the spectrum, and have received zero benefits.
Where do I get my check?
If your child has been professionally diagnosed, there are programs in place to provide assistance. And you absolutely should, you pay money for that.
Anyone acting like parents of disabled children are gaming the system and leeches for taking advantage of programs to help their kids crack me up. I want my son to have the best life he can, and I will use every resource available to me to make that happen.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:51 am to trinidadtiger
In 1986, a bill was passed removing liability from the vaccine manufacturers. Once that shackle was off, they released new vaccines every year since and coincidentally since the late 80's, autism has skyrocketed. Just saying
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The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 (NCVIA) established a federal "no-fault" system to compensate individuals injured by vaccines. This bill was enacted to address concerns that vaccine manufacturers were facing excessive lawsuits and that this threat of liability was driving manufacturers out of the vaccine market. The NCVIA created the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NVICP) to handle these claims.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 8:53 am to crewdepoo
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Try looking it up ever? Every thing rfk says his highly disputed by most government employed scientists that are affiliated with the pharmaceutical companies.
FIFY
Posted on 5/7/25 at 9:00 am to Jake88
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You're talking about benefits and additional government dollars. And, you're correct that this is why we see them more often, they are mainstreamed.
You are absolutely correct. But my comment was directed to the question of whether there is a "dramatic increase in autism" that is "benefit related." My response is that the so called "dramatic increase" comments are fueled by geriatric folk like RFK saying things like, "When we were kids you just didn't ever see autistic kids." Those comments are meaningless. Of course you didn't see them, they were segregated from the general population.
To a great degree we have become obsessed with specific diagnoses. When I was a kid, anyone over 65 died of "old age." Now we learn that the 94 year olds are dying of 90% blockage of the left anterior descending coronary artery, etc. No one dies of "old age" anymore.
Kids used to be "retarded," or "slow" and that covered pretty much everything. Now we apply specific diagnoses. The "dramatic increase" is in diagnosis.
Posted on 5/7/25 at 9:01 am to trinidadtiger
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There has also been an increase in drug treatment for autism to help with the symptoms of irritability. Is an autism diagnosis just an excuse to drug the child and make them manageable zombies.
You are confusing autism with ADHD.
Sure, there is some pharmacological therapy associated with autism, but the mainstays of treatment are more therapy based. ADHD is different.
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