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re: Is the commodification of everything a predictable outcome of capitalism?
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:18 pm to McLemore
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:18 pm to McLemore
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Commodification of humans is the outcome of other systems.
I actually agree with this in an “in addition to” sense rather than “instead of,” if that makes sense. Can you expand on what you mean?
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:20 pm to 4cubbies
If not given restrictions and restraint then yes
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:23 pm to 4cubbies
Socialists cannot “commodify” anything, because they don’t have anything to commodify.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:30 pm to 4cubbies
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Inmates are exploited for free labor
No, it's called "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time"
You could turn around the recidivism in every prison in America if they were allowed to be ran like military bootcamps and offered Vo-Tech skilled classes.
But instead Liberals fight to make their stays like home away from home. If a convict doesn't fear failure, you will never solve recidivism.
I have an older brother who went to prison and was told by several they had zero fear of returning because of the accomodations versus what was on the outside after being released.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:33 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Free labor? They get free housing, meals, clothing, healthcare, medication, and all other basic needs. They can damn sure provide labor that helps feed the very people that keeps them alive. TAXPAYERS
Inmates are exploited for free labor
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:36 pm to 4cubbies
Everything is bartered for. Even the love that our Mothers give to us when we are children. She invests the time to one day have grandchildren When we are nice to someone it is because we want something from it. For the other person to be nice back to us or make us feel good internally for being nice. When we talk we exchange ideas. Capitalism is realizing that people are naturally self centered. That doesn't mean that we can't offer value to each other.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:37 pm to 4cubbies
Just wondering. Did this genius ever give us HER definition of commodification or, does she have you all running in circles again?
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:43 pm to 4cubbies
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Emotional drivel.
keep crying those emotional crocodile tears for prisoners. We will keep laughing at your regurgitating of programming propaganda. 
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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We already do that.
Clearly not doing that well enough.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:54 pm to loogaroo
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Socialism has failed every time it was tried. Next
Yep, and the US does not have true capitalism. Easy to blame capitalism when we have as many elements of socialism as we do capitalism in the US.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:59 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
No 4Dummies asks questions.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:47 pm to Neutral Underground
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That doesn't mean that we can't offer value to each other.
This seems to be more of a coincidence than an intention, though.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:57 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Then you are completely unaware of the monetary cost of incarceration.
I argue that the task at hand is acquiring free/super low cost labor.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:For nonviolent crimes, and in instances where alternatives provide equal of better recidivism rates, you and I are in agreement. But that has nothing whatsoever to do with commodification, which is the point at hand.
Over-incarceration has costs, yes.
Comparing those costs to other ways to spend similar money and the prospective outcomes is the discussion, or whether the costs of incarceration are worth the costs of the perceived alternative.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:05 pm to NC_Tigah
Not at all. I’m well aware. That doesn’t actually matter though. We keep investing in this money pit.
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:06 pm to SallysHuman
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I think cubbies posting privileges should be commodified... fix a price and double it for every topic started with a question lacking answers or commentary.
If Chicken doesn’t pay an honorarium to Cubbies, Owl, and SFP for the clicks and views their shitposts generate they should demand compensation. Also, Cubbies congratulations for discovering Frederic Jameson 35 years after he wrote the book your post is cribbing You always punch below your weight
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:09 pm to Bunsbert Montcroff
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Also, Cubbies congratulations for discovering Frederic Jameson 35 years after he wrote the book your post is cribbing
Karl Polanyi but I’ll have to check our Frederic Jameson.
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 9/9/25 at 11:02 pm to 4cubbies
quote:I think I found that just now? DM'd. We're in Europe, so times are off.
Btw I found you on Xitter the other day and replied to a random tweet of yours
Posted on 9/9/25 at 11:04 pm to 4cubbies
How is it a coincidence? The reason humans are the most successful animal on the planet is because we cooperate with each other. We are highly social. The reason our prefrontal cortex grew so much was to process language. Language for us to communicate ideas with each other.
Communism is a scam to trick people into supporting charlatans by making false promises of turning the Have-nots into the Haves. Until the Communists get power and turn everyone into have nots. Other than an elite few. The reason Communism always goes to sht is because they purge anyone smart enough that could oppose them. Leaving only the idiots and morons who can't accomplish what the Capitalist can.
Communism is a scam to trick people into supporting charlatans by making false promises of turning the Have-nots into the Haves. Until the Communists get power and turn everyone into have nots. Other than an elite few. The reason Communism always goes to sht is because they purge anyone smart enough that could oppose them. Leaving only the idiots and morons who can't accomplish what the Capitalist can.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 11:18 pm to 4cubbies
quote:"Investing" is an overused term w/ regard to government spending. Government expenditure is not often investment any more than more individual expenses are not investments.
We keep investing in this money pit.
But the fact we keep throwing money at the problem does not render it commodification. I'm curious though, what is the alternative IYO?
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