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re: Is racism gone in Georgia now? Did they change the voting laws?
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:44 am to Corinthians420
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:44 am to Corinthians420
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Laziness cannot be voter suppression because laziness isnt a legal action.
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:44 am to TackySweater
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How do you know this was the “aim” of the law? The aim was to make sure valid voters were voting.
Laziness is the suppression not the law.
Hell, if we want to go down this rabbit hole too, not taking reasonable measures to ensure invalid votes aren't being cast is suppressing the valid votes that are cast, thus voter suppression.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:45 am to TackySweater
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Laziness cannot be voter suppression because laziness isnt a legal action.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:46 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Once again
Voter suppression refers to any action, whether legal or extralegal, that aims to reduce voting or voter registration by members of a particular group, often based on race, political affiliation, or other characteristics.
Allowing illegal votes is something, but it isnt voter suppession because it doesnt reduce voting.
Voter suppression refers to any action, whether legal or extralegal, that aims to reduce voting or voter registration by members of a particular group, often based on race, political affiliation, or other characteristics.
Allowing illegal votes is something, but it isnt voter suppession because it doesnt reduce voting.
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 9:47 am
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:49 am to Corinthians420
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Once again
Once again you've successfully argued that all rules and laws around organizing voting is voter suppression.
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Allowing illegal votes is something, but it isnt voter suppession because it doesnt reduce voting.
Actually it can reduce voting. As the valid voter's voice is suppressed, so will their turnout. By your own argument, it is voter suppression.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:50 am to GoCrazyAuburn
You guys would never last in a courtroom with your inability to stivk to the issue.
We are determining whether the law was aimed to reduce voting among certain groups of people (lazy, with no ID, etc.)
Not whether or not people lost their ability to vote or if illegals voted.
We are determining whether the law was aimed to reduce voting among certain groups of people (lazy, with no ID, etc.)
Not whether or not people lost their ability to vote or if illegals voted.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:53 am to Corinthians420
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You guys would never last in a courtroom with your inability to stivk to the issue.
That's rich.
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We are determining whether the law was aimed to reduce voting among certain groups of people (lazy, with no ID, etc.)
Then follows up with this. Laziness is not a recognized, identifiable, group. This has not and would not hold up in a courtroom. Because again, by your own definition, every law around voting would reduce voting amongst this group. So, unless you want to admit that all voting laws are voter suppression, you are arbitrarily applying the definition as you see fit, which would not hold up in a courtroom.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:57 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Laziness isnt the name of the group, its the reason Tacky keeps giving for people not getting ID/voting.
If a certain group is less likely to have ID. It doesnt matter the reason, it's irrelevant to whether or not the law imposes voter suppression on that group.
If a certain group is less likely to have ID. It doesnt matter the reason, it's irrelevant to whether or not the law imposes voter suppression on that group.
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 10:00 am
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:02 am to Corinthians420
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Laziness isnt the name of the group, its the reason Tacky keeps giving for people not getting ID.
Uh.....
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Corinthians420
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The most racist thing I can think of is believing black people are so incapable and inferior to other races that they can’t get an id
Why do you think they are incapable or inferior rather than they just dont feel like getting one?
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 10:03 am
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:03 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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If a certain group is less likely to have ID. It doesnt matter the reason, it's irrelevant to whether or not the law imposes voter suppression on that group.
Actually, it is relevant. This argument would absolutely not hold up in a courtroom. Striking out a lot here, counselor.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:06 am to Corinthians420
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that aims to reduce voting
The aim of the bill was to restore faith in a broken system, this making people vote that didn’t vote because they thought it was broken.
So the law actually aimed to increase voting.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:06 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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If a certain group is less likely to have ID. It doesnt matter the reason, it's irrelevant to whether or not the law imposes voter suppression on that group.
Actually, it is relevant
How? Voter suppression is based on the goal of the law being to reduce voting, not the reasons the legislators believe that it will achieve the intended result.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:07 am to Corinthians420
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We are determining whether the law was aimed to reduce voting among certain groups of people (lazy, with no ID, etc.)
The law was aimed actually to increase disillusioned voter turnout.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:09 am to Cosmo
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I thought black people could no longer vote in GA? Why are they having the all star game in ATL?
It's a valid question.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:09 am to TackySweater
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The law was aimed actually to increase disillusioned voter turnout
Well then it failed.. Voter turnout was down among black people.
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 10:11 am
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:10 am to Corinthians420
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Well then it failed.. Voter turnout was down.
So. That was the aim.
If I shoot 100 free throws a day with the aim of getting better, and I don’t get better, it doesn’t change what my aim was.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:11 am to Corinthians420
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How?
How does the reason one group or another may get impacted more or less by a law matter to determining the legality of said law? Are you seriously asking that question?
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Voter suppression is based on the goal of the law being to reduce voting
Cool, wasn't the goal.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:11 am to TackySweater
Voter turnout in Georgia was actually up across the board and went down among black people. That seems kinda like the law suppressed voting in one group.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:12 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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How does the reason one group or another may get impacted more or less by a law matter to determining the legality of said law?
Thats literally what discrimination means...
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:12 am to Corinthians420
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That seems kinda like the law suppressed voting in one group.
That may have been the result, but it wasn’t rhe goal.
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