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Is Kalshi Biased?

Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:17 pm
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
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Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:17 pm
We know that polling under counts Republicans.

Is Kalshi accurate? Do campaigns bother trying to manipulate it?
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:19 pm to
This is a thread about betting markets?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
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Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:20 pm to
Yes
Posted by TigerIron
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Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:21 pm to
I actually think maybe it is or could be because of who tends to use a betting market (skews younger, more techy, no problem with gambling) and who wouldn't use one. Now, those people are still betting on what they think will happen, but they see a limited information environment (like all of us) and may not know a lot of conservative voters (and especially rural voters).
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:21 pm to
k. The answer is no. Betting markets are betting markets.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:22 pm to
Betting markets can be moved with relatively small amounts of money.

This is very obvious when you look at how small some of the pools of money are on some of these things. I wouldn't use it as a reliable predictor. It might have the ability to shape public perceptions though through false signaling. Which is why these things are generally a terrible idea.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:22 pm to
Kalshi isn't predicting anything.

The simplest way I can explain it to you is "let the money do the talking."
Meaning, if a market is inefficient, someone will take advantage of it, which in turn recalibrates the odds. So then, with enough volume, you essentially hit "equilibrium" of odds because there's no big hedge to bet big either way.

Now if you're referring to elections, if those markets are heavily influenced by using polls, which are deemed inaccurate then the subset of people seeming said polls inaccurate will take advantage of it, which takes us back to the paragraph above.
It's just a market.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:25 pm to
Bets placed on politics is the most idiotic thing in history.
Posted by TigerIron
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Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

Betting markets can be moved with relatively small amounts of money.

This is very obvious when you look at how small some of the pools of money are on some of these things. I wouldn't use it as a reliable predictor. It might have the ability to shape public perceptions though through false signaling. Which is why these things are generally a terrible idea.


This is also a good point. I wonder if people with money would think it worthwhile to do, though.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
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Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:35 pm to
Thanks for all the responses.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

Betting markets can be moved with relatively small amounts of money.

This is very obvious when you look at how small some of the pools of money are on some of these things. I wouldn't use it as a reliable predictor. It might have the ability to shape public perceptions though through false signaling. Which is why these things are generally a terrible idea.


That's true, but no one is quoting/citing low volume bets in mainstream conversations
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:43 pm to
It’s a public betting market so the person who has the most money is favored. Like all betting the public is usually wrong and Kalshi and polymarket are no indications of actual predictions. Look at Massie who had 80% favorability on the markets to then losing.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
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Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:49 pm to
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Look at Massie who had 80% favorability on the markets to then losing.


Yup. That was a BIG miss.
Posted by DeBoar
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Posted on 10/16/26 at 5:59 pm to
Not if you paid attention to ky4. I haven’t folllwed most of these races since primaries so I’m not going to act like I have but it was pretty clear especially the last week Massie was going to lose and not because of the Jews.

I won’t lie though Trump voters are doing their job to hold ground but idk if that will be enough if others on the right do stay home.
This post was edited on 10/16/26 at 6:00 pm
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 10/16/26 at 6:01 pm to
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and not because of the Jews.


Maybe the bookies are Jewish.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
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Posted on 10/16/26 at 6:01 pm to
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Not if you paid attention to ky4.


I was just saying about prediction markets. I don't remember the dates, but they had Massie up late.
Posted by DeBoar
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Posted on 10/16/26 at 6:02 pm to
They own everything so probably. Not in that one though that was just an excuse. National support doesn’t mean shite in specific districts, especially with the crowd that doesn’t believe in voting.
Posted by DeBoar
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Posted on 10/16/26 at 6:02 pm to
Oh it was until the last minute but again prediction markets don’t mean shite. The election was over very quickly.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 10/16/26 at 6:19 pm to
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Oh it was until the last minute but again prediction markets don’t mean shite. The election was over very quickly.


If pollsters are wrong they will just say, "something changed" since the poll.
Posted by rocksteady
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/16/26 at 6:35 pm to
I have a not insignificant amount of money placed on some of these races where I felt there was a lot of value vs what these states do historically - like Texas. I feel like the polls are gigantic propaganda machines and/or terrible at their jobs, and I’m willing to put my money where my mouth is and make it interesting. And I’m a prideful degenerate that must school himself on prediction markets trail by fire to successfully squash my curiosity if wrong
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