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re: Is it time to ditch the word "conservative"

Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:58 am to
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10328 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:58 am to
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Well... it's a simple explanation of why youth are attracted to socialism


Young women are. Young men are going right while young women are going hard left
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:01 am to
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Young men are going right while young women are going hard left


Young men have student loans and home ownership aspirations, too.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10328 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:03 am to
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Young men are going right while young women are going hard left


Young men have student loans and home ownership aspirations, too.


Yet they are still going right, while women are going left. Its almost like there are very real differences between men and women. Its almost like our ancestors knew better than to let women vote
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:05 am to
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Im already getting downvotes from the boomer turds. They hate being reminded of their abject failure
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scottydoesntknow

I've never liked lumping all Boomers together as a big problem.

I'm GenX so all friends' parents that I grew up around are all boomers, and 95% of them are actually awesome people. Maybe if you go into the big cities where all the old school tree huggers and hippies reside, it's different, but in the rural areas the boomers are mostly solid and moderate conservative to hardline conservative.

That's transcends generational into regional, though. Age doesn't matter. The progressive-minded tend to live and dwell in the big progressive areas, while the conservative-minarchist-minded tend to live in more rural and far less densely populated areas.

Boomers came from the first generation in America where both the man and the woman in the household could work and make good money and be even more successful as a unit, and they damn sure did it. I find that to be commendable. There's a huge faction of Millennials and GenZ that don't even want to work.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297576 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:06 am to
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Yet they are still going right,


Not if Trump doesnt get his head out of his arse and fix the economy.

You people think his tariffs and collective ideals are widely celebrated, y'all are in for a huge shock come midterms.
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
462 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:09 am to
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I want something new completely
Oh, I understood that part. It is a wonderful idea/dream. But, there is not a meaningful population of citizens who actually want something new. The ‘something new’ is actually ‘something old’ though. It was abandoned not long after its adoption.

There was a brief window where a reversal of course may have been a possibility. 9/11, the housing bubble bursting and subsequent bailouts, the ACA, & Covid assured it would never be open again.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5771 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:13 am to
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Is it time to ditch the word "conservative"


For a lot of you, it is. You want to be known as something else, go for it.
Posted by kbmaverick
Baton Rouge, Maui and Toledo Bend
Member since Nov 2009
1018 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:17 am to
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Im already getting downvotes from the boomer turds. They hate being reminded of their abject failure

Maybe if you stop with the juvenile insults you may not get so many downvotes. It is likely that most of the boomers you mention were born to northern liberals that do not represent a large portion of the generation. They were likely part of the hippie radical group.
I am a boomer born in 1955 and have been a conservative Republican since I first registered to vote. Most all of those I attended high school and college with are also conservatives.
In the Chemical Engineering business assumptions normally end up very badly for those who assume. Fix your own house before you start judging another's.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10328 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:20 am to
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I've never liked lumping all Boomers together as a big problem.

I'm GenX so all friends' parents that I grew up around are all boomers, and 95% of them are actually awesome people. Maybe if you go into the big cities where all the old school tree huggers and hippies reside, it's different, but in the rural areas the boomers are mostly solid and moderate conservative to hardline conservative.

That's transcends generational into regional, though. Age doesn't matter. The progressive-minded tend to live and dwell in the big progressive areas, while the conservative-minarchist-minded tend to live in more rural and far less densely populated areas.

Boomers came from the first generation in America where both the man and the woman in the household could work and make good money and be even more successful as a unit, and they damn sure did it. I find that to be commendable. There's a huge faction of Millennials and GenZ that don't even want to work.


Jesus said to judge a tree by its fruit. What has the fruit of boomer rule been? What has the fruit of boomer conservatism been? I realize that boomers get quite upset by these questions. Im also very aware that there are outliers...my boomer dad is one of them. The fact is that whenever there was a fork in the road to take the GOP more to the right or more to the left, boomers always chose left.

92: Bush over Buchanan
96: Dole over Buchanan
00: Bush...over Alan Keyes(not a strong conservative year)
04: no real contenders to Bush
08: McCain over Ron Paul
12: Romney over Paul again

16: Trump was the first time Boomers really lost their preferred GOP candidate
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
7492 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:21 am to
Well we definitely need better marketing.

The Dems use nice sounding words like “progressive” to sell their BS to idiots, women, and the young.

We need a better marketing strategy.

When communists want to murder millions they don’t say that. They say “Great Leap Forward”

In the USA it was “No King Day”. In Canada it was “No Tyrant Day” Care to guess why the change in language?

It’s all how you package it.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 9:24 am
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10328 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:22 am to
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I am a boomer born in 1955 and have been a conservative Republican since I first registered to vote. Most all of those I attended high school and college with are also conservatives.


Which GOP primary candidates did you vote for in 92 and 96?
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38780 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:26 am to
There are two reasons that I believe that some form of a Globalist, pseudo-Socialism is inevitable.

Firstly, the only form of opposition to such an economic model is the Constitutional Republic version and such is singularly unique in the historical record. It codifies the Rights (as being "inalienable, God-given") of the Individual, both religious and economic, from subordination to that of the Democratic/"Mob Rule" Collective. I.e., that individuals can keep the fruits of their innate abilities, talents and motivational labors without being forced to 'share' such with their competing peers. This model creates a 'Middle Class' who are then able to attain the relative affluence of the which was only heretofore experienced by the Upper, Ruling Class. That creates an extraordinarily motivated dynamic for prosperity in people who would otherwise spend their time working and creating to support the nonproductive (Immoral?) weaker people in the Collective. The Book "Envy" by Helmut Schoeck aptly documents said historical record, and the psychological aspects of the socio-economic dynamics.

Given the above competitive economic dynamics, and as we inch toward suicidal war, it is likely that either AI or species self-preservation common sense will dictate the clear choice that if Humanity continues the Competitive model for relative affluence and personal power, that given the exponential advance of High Tech weaponry, species suicide is a virtual fait accompli. Fermi Paradox narrative.

Humanity has been 'successful' in reproducing their kind to a heretofore unimaginable degree, and there is a very large demographic of relatively weak people - moral and immoral - who exist via the mercy of the Strong's extraordinary, highly motivated enterprise and civilization. This 'Weak' demographic forms the basis of the 'Democratic' movement, and as well the DEI (read "Envy") which forms the ideological basis for Globalist, Transnational Progressive Government. The obvious truth of this socio-economic argument has won Academia, and even the most powerful of the Ruling Class, Corporate Elite movers and shakers. Read Font's Essay re "Transnational Progressivism" to clarify the political dynamics as such challenges the Constitutional Republic and God-given Individual Rights form of governance.

Secondly is my Religious 'bias'. The above perfectly aligns with the Biblical Eschatological Prophetic Narrative, and being a person of Faith, the coincidence therein is overwhelmingly convincing. Not to mention the Quantum Physics/Entanglement Theory which alludes to some form of Universal 'Unity' which is contrary to Universal Physics Law, but for the Spiritual Paradigm which could reconcile the seeming paradox.

To the OP's point, yeah, muh 'Conservative' and the Constitutional Republic version of governance is done. The abuses and problematic aspects of Capitalism and "the love of money" as power and narcissism in various forms has run its course. The 'Mamdanis' will relentlessly attack it behind said 'Weak' masses and it will take much blood shed to deny them power.

And nothing lasts forever. Change and progression to the better and more true is a good thing as we'll all be better for it. No matter the painful process. The ends do justify the means. Lest God be found imperfect.

Lord have mercy on them who love.

Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10328 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:27 am to
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Fix your own house before you start judging another's.


We are living in the house that yall built. Yall tore down the one with a strong foundation, big timber framing, wood floors and classic architecture and replaced it with a flimsy mcmansion(you know the allegory is poetically fitting) with carpet and plastic over wood floors, superficial fake features, and modern ugly features over classic, timeless ones
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10328 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:39 am to
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To the OP's point, yeah, muh 'Conservative' and the Constitutional Republic version of governance is done. The abuses and problematic aspects of Capitalism and "the love of money" as power and narcissism in various forms has run its course. The 'Mamdanis' will relentlessly attack it behind said 'Weak' masses and it will take much blood shed to deny them power.


This is an important point you make here. While all rational thinkers can agree that capitalism is the best economic model, a good society is one where people dont always take the route of quickest, easiest and most profitable. Weve pounded this message into people that greed really is equitable to the most righteous. The one that made the most money is clearly the better individual. This really is repulsive and easily attackable hence why its so effective at influencing the first generation of young people that arent really in on the gravy train.

We taught the virtues of working hard but neglected the virtue of looking out for your neighbor and the people that will come after you. This is ultimately what made Western Civilization so great. The men that worked their whole lives building the great cathedrals and monuments of Europe didnt get to enjoy the fruits of their labor really. They did it for their ancestors.

Capitalism works with MORAL people, otherwise it, like every other economic system is doomed to fail and something new be built out of the ashes
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
1969 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:42 am to
It’s not really ideology they are voting for, it’s free stuff. As the welfare state population grows, the only thing you need to win is promise more free stuff, promise to raise tax on the wealthy, promise to build a utopia.


No one really wants illegal immigrants, trannies in girls bathrooms and sports, or want a bigger government. To win, you can be pro all the above, and as long as you ad free services, free healthcare, and tax the rich to your platform, you will win in these blue states.

These votes are on the potential and promises that never materialize. Waiting and voting for someone to drag you across the finish line has become the norm.

Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38780 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:54 am to
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It’s not really ideology they are voting for, it’s free stuff


Schoeck's Book aptly and clearly defines the feeling of Envy as a very effectual aspect of Human society. The weak don't see it as "free stuff", they see it as a basic moral principle (DEI) of a unified and 'loving' society. Abandonment of such would be 'selfish' and disunifying. And therein scorned and being worthy of violent redress for the cause of unity, survival and prosperity.

Give Satan its due. "War in Heaven and on Earth", to determine Pontious Pilot's "what is truth".

This is big stuff!
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10412 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:20 am to
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Your club is for life's losers who are afraid Mexicans are going to take their job.'


Look at Mr. Conservative. Willing to destroy our culture and keep Americans unemployed just so corporations can pay lower wages.

What exactly are you conserving by letting in millions of foreigners? It certainly isn't the American Dream, our culture, or the prosperity of the middle class, the backbone of our country. All of these foreigners support anti-freedom laws, like gun control and limits on free speech, more than native-born Americans because they come from shite cultures and bring their shite cultures with them. They also support more welfare, which you stupidly try to tie to MAGA but always fail in embarrassing fashion.

You claim to be a conservative, yet the policies you support radically transform America just as progressive policies do. You are nothing more than an idiot who cannot see the results of his own policies. You're just a globalist shill without a brain at this point.

The worst part is that you're dumb enough to believe that watering down our culture will lead to success. You're no different than the "diversity is our strength" morons. You think flooding the country with cheap laborers who don't assimilate is the best path forward. That's retarded.

You're a Chamber of Commerce useful idiot. You're part of the GOPe that failed us for years. People like you are the reason MAGA took over your flailing political party, but you still can't see it. You still back the losers that have never delivered for us.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297576 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:22 am to
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Willing to destroy our culture and keep Americans unemployed just so corporations can pay lower wages.



If youre competing against unskilled mexicans, you need to do a LOT of soul searching, chief. The problem is you, not your employer.
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The worst part is that you're dumb enough to believe that watering down our culture will lead to success. You're no different than the "diversity is our strength" morons.


Much of the West was mexican before it was Anglo-ized. This IS your culture goober.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 11:23 am
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10412 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:22 am to
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It means you failed as an individual 


Melting down over the temporary loss of a couple grand in the stock market is a sure sign that someone is winning at life.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297576 posts
Posted on 11/5/25 at 11:23 am to

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Melting down over the temporary loss of a couple grand in the stock market


Typical MAGA lie.
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