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re: Is it still right to fly an American flag?

Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:39 am to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:39 am to
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And see, some might suggest that belief in something so ardently that one cannot fathom it deteriorating is cult like faith.


Others might just not be weak enough to crumble and melt because times aren't as good as they could be.

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Are we truly better than the third world if our govt does the same thing as other third world govts?


I'll say yes. Which third world countries have you been to and in what ways are we no better than them?

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Would you be willing to accept that the USA could fall into such disrepair that, while it isn't worse than other countries, but that it's no better? 


No.

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And no, it isn't that far-fetched. In fact, it has been suggested.


That doesn't mean anything to me. It's been suggested that an election was stolen and supposed "patriots" did nothing about it. It's been suggested that lizard people run the world.

Don't be afraid of what's "been suggested."
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36715 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:39 am to
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I'm not being disrespectful when I ask this, as I am genuinely curious, but when does this statement stop being true? What would have to happen for you to say, "You know what, this isn't the greatest country anymore"?

I'm not sure. But so many countries depend on us monetarily through direct aid or trade so if we fall to a certain level, I would suspect that other countries would fall even farther and maybe faster. But, we have to get those responsible for killing us out of office. Not sure how you rebuild the intelligence agencies without a ground up overhaul but we have got to try. Military has to be rebuilt, as well.
Posted by mcpotiger
Missouri
Member since Mar 2005
8822 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:48 am to
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This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 12:26 pm
Posted by s2
Southdowns
Member since Sep 2016
6258 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:58 am to
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To me, the flag does not stand for freedom any longer.
fly the Betsy Ross flag, 1776.

i am proud to fly that flag and the DOJ/FBI/CIA consider it a symbol of domestic terrorism.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
8527 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:30 pm to
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Would you be willing to accept that the USA could fall into such disrepair that, while it isn't worse than other countries, but that it's no better? 


No.


Ok. That's where we differ.

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Don't be afraid of what's "been suggested."


I'm not afraid. But if you can't see the difference between someone in the mainstream media suggesting Biden suspend the midterm elections to "save democracy" and the presence of Lizard people by a crackpot, then I have nothing left to discuss with you.
Cheers.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
78679 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:33 pm to
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the flag does not stand for freedom any longer


The flag still stands for freedom. And they can't take that away.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
8527 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:33 pm to
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I'm not sure. But so many countries depend on us monetarily through direct aid or trade so if we fall to a certain level, I would suspect that other countries would fall even farther and maybe faster. But, we have to get those responsible for killing us out of office. Not sure how you rebuild the intelligence agencies without a ground up overhaul but we have got to try. Military has to be rebuilt, as well.


I agree with this.
Would getting those out of office that are killing us by killing them first be acceptable to you?
Would you be physically willing to drop the blade on someone you feel is guilty of treason?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:34 pm to
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Ok. That's where we differ.


That's fine. You just haven't seen what I've seen.

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I'm not afraid. But if you can't see the difference between someone in the mainstream media suggesting Biden suspend the midterm elections to "save democracy" and the presence of Lizard people by a crackpot, then I have nothing left to discuss with you.
Cheers.


They're varying degrees of the same stupidity.

No. I'm not going to give value to either.

If you can't do better than that, it's probably for the best that you tuck tail.
Posted by Landmass
Premium Member
Member since Jun 2013
23610 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:59 pm to
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The flag still stands for freedom. And they can't take that away.



Yes they can. If they march a bunch of soldiers wearing that flag against citizens, it becomes a symbol of tyranny.
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
8995 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:09 pm to
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Yes they can. If they march a bunch of soldiers wearing that flag against citizens, it becomes a symbol of tyranny.


Most news stories were careful NOT to use the phrase 'FBI raids'. State propaganda knows.

I will take my flag down for a couple of days but keep flying my 'Lets go Brandon' sign.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7650 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:15 pm to
Nation in distress.

This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Pioneer BS 175
Pcola
Member since Jul 2015
1302 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:16 pm to
I just ordered a Betsy Ross Flag to pair with the Gadsden Flag that I fly on my boat. Putting the Stars and Stripes on the bench for now.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36715 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:16 pm to
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Would you be physically willing to drop the blade on someone you feel is guilty of treason?

If I applied for a job as "Executioner" and was hired, it would my responsibility, then yes. But, I have no interest in applying for such.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
8527 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:17 pm to
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Ok. That's where we differ.


That's fine. You just haven't seen what I've seen.


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I'm not afraid. But if you can't see the difference between someone in the mainstream media suggesting Biden suspend the midterm elections to "save democracy" and the presence of Lizard people by a crackpot, then I have nothing left to discuss with you.
Cheers.


They're varying degrees of the same stupidity.

No. I'm not going to give value to either.

If you can't do better than that, it's probably for the best that you tuck tail.


Nor have you seen what I've seen. And??

Again, the difference between people claiming there are lizard people and a member of the media suggesting the midterm elections be suspended aren't the same degree of anything. They aren't even comparable. If you're too dim to realize that, probably best you just keep working that comfortable state job of yours and not risk your pension.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34420 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:18 pm to
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Most news stories were careful NOT to use the phrase 'FBI raids'. State propaganda knows.


The newspeak is "search". Facebook is already putting disinformation warnings over posta using the word "raid".
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
8527 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:19 pm to
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If I applied for a job as "Executioner" and was hired, it would my responsibility, then yes. But, I have no interest in applying for such.


So it is imperative that we remain a lawful citizenry when there is clearly a double standard with regards to the application of the law, and a ruling class that is above the law? How does this work?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:20 pm to
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Nor have you seen what I've seen. And??



I'd put money that my experience is directly applicable. I'm sure vacation showed you a lot, though.

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Again, the difference between people claiming there are lizard people and a member of the media suggesting the midterm elections be suspended aren't the same degree of anything. 


Yes they are.

The media doesn't hold some special power in 2022. Each claim goes as far as it's believed.

If you don't know that, you don't know anything.

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that comfortable state job of yours and not risk your pension


This isn't accurate. It's also weird.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
8527 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:22 pm to
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This isn't accurate. It's also weird.


I'm sure your job is harrowing.
I'd put money that your experience doesn't mean jack shite. So there you go.

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The media doesn't hold some special power in 2022


Your retard is showing.
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 1:24 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134098 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:23 pm to
Yes.

Texas flag is better, though.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:33 pm to
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I'm sure your job is harrowing.


Not anymore. That's a young man's game.

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I'd put money that your experience doesn't mean jack shite. So there you go.



Go for it.

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Your retard is showing.


You give them too much power. Stop being part of the problem.
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