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re: Is it still right to fly an American flag?

Posted on 8/9/22 at 10:44 am to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71811 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 10:44 am to
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I cannot get myself to do it. I haven’t celebrated Independence Day since 2019.


We can't all be patriots.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260603 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 10:44 am to
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Is it still right


Do you know who determines that? You do.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 10:48 am to
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the flag represents the sacrifice of service members who were sent to fight for each other and home.



No it doesn’t, it represents the Union.
Posted by Tmo Sabe
GA
Member since Mar 2022
612 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 10:48 am to
I don't idolize the sky cloth.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11163 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 10:56 am to
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Need someone to make a flag for protesting DC and the Fed.


Should get back to basics...
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5784 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 10:56 am to
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Might not look the same but it will still be better than anything else out there.



I'm not being disrespectful when I ask this, as I am genuinely curious, but when does this statement stop being true? What would have to happen for you to say, "You know what, this isn't the greatest country anymore"?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71811 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:01 am to
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I'm not being disrespectful when I ask this, as I am genuinely curious, but when does this statement stop being true? What would have to happen for you to say, "You know what, this isn't the greatest country anymore"?


Have you ever traveled? I don't know that there's a country on the planet that could pass us in our lifetimes.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41615 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:01 am to
I’ve got two flying from my home.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23075 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:04 am to
Y'all supporting this sound just like Brittany Griner...hating our country. Sad.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10926 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:07 am to
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frick anyone who flys an American flag.


That’s a bold statement.

And also one that I guarantee you only make on internet message boards.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5784 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:07 am to
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Have you ever traveled? I don't know that there's a country on the planet that could pass us in our lifetimes.


Why travel? I live in the greatest country the world has ever known.

The question still stands. What would have to happen for this country to no longer be the greatest?

Don't think about other countries catching up to the USA in greatness, but rather the USA sliding into mediocrity. What would have to happen here, to make another country as they are right now, better?
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 11:10 am
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44025 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:13 am to
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Y'all supporting this sound just like Brittany Griner...hating our country. Sad.

Not exactly the same thing.

I haven’t sung the National Anthem in years.
That doesn’t mean I don’t stand (respectfully) when it’s played.
I choose not to grandstand—no one is aware of my personal beliefs—and/or draw attention to myself.

Griner’s behavior is her call; but people can have opinions and respond accordingly.
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 11:51 am
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:13 am to
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I cannot get myself to do it. I haven’t celebrated Independence Day since 2019.


We can't all be patriots.




Its a cult
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23075 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:15 am to
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Not exactly the same thing.



Ah, it's diffeRent
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49343 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:15 am to
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My neighbors took there’s down last night and they are America AF



I took mine down the day Biden assumed office.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71811 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:23 am to
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Why travel?


You don't leave your town? Your state?

quote:

I live in the greatest country the world has ever known.


Indeed.

quote:

Don't think about other countries catching up to the USA in greatness, but rather the USA sliding into mediocrity. What would have to happen here, to make another country as they are right now, better?


Time travel. You'd have to erase the foundation of this country before we had two and a half centuries to cement it.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79152 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:26 am to
You couldn't pay me to fly that flag right now. I'm embarrassed to be an American.

Just a point of reference:

I am involved in intl business and speak with people all over the world every single day.

Yesterday I asked these foreigners if they heard about the FBI raid. They all sighed a bit and said "yea not a good look". I asked how we were viewed in their respective countries and they collectively said that we don't carry the same amount clout as we once did. Said it happened within the last year.

CSB I know.
Posted by Liberator
Ephesians 6:10-16
Member since Jul 2020
8463 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:29 am to
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Like I said, America is more than the government and the flag doesn't just represent the government, but the ideas that underlie the country, the people, etc. I still believe in those ideas...


Hear ya...

...which makes the present unfurling of the Stars & Stripes all the more a potential conflict. (Do Dems use it as a prop OR a symbol of *their* own ideology?

Though for the vast majority of us the US Flag represents the ideal of a shared notion of Loyalty, Fidelity, Honor & Freedom, *can* the Flag's meaning (or any other symbol) be subverted?

Example: THE RAINBOW.
Posted by Liberator
Ephesians 6:10-16
Member since Jul 2020
8463 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:30 am to
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Its a cult


Can you be more specific?
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5784 posts
Posted on 8/9/22 at 11:31 am to
I have traveled plenty. It's part of my job. It was a rhetorical question.

And see, some might suggest that belief in something so ardently that one cannot fathom it deteriorating is cult like faith.

To pretend that the USA could do nothing to fall behind other countries greatness is rose-colored glasses vision.

Are we truly better than the third world if our govt does the same thing as other third world govts?

Would you be willing to accept that the USA could fall into such disrepair that, while it isn't worse than other countries, but that it's no better? Such as, say, suspend the US Constitution and cancel the midterm elections? Would we still be the greatest country on earth?

And no, it isn't that far-fetched. In fact, it has been suggested.
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