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re: Is it a campaign finance violation if it's your own money?

Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by Vecchio Cane
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Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:40 pm to
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I mean, if the shoe fits. You can't even spell Winston Churchill's name right. Dumbfrick.


Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:41 pm to
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You can't be this dense. Actually, you're a trump supporter, so yes, you can be this dense.


You said trump used campaign funds. Nobody is alleging that. The article you posted says exactly what I said is alleged. That Cohen made an in kind contribution. You cant figure out the difference yet still call others dense.
Posted by themissinglink
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:41 pm to
A race to the bottom. We can go ahead and award you dumbest. Congrats.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
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Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:41 pm to
NO!!!
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
18584 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:43 pm to
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A race to the bottom. We can go ahead and award you dumbest. Congrats.


Thanks
Posted by themissinglink
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:43 pm to
It's in the first paragraph you inbred illiterate twat

U.S. President Donald Trump’s former personal lawyer Michael Cohen testified on Tuesday that Trump had directed him to commit a crime by arranging payments ahead of the 2016 presidential election to silence two women who said they had affairs with Trump.

Jesus buttfricking christ. Nowhere in the article does it mention "in kind contribution" (ctrl+f if you're too slow to read)
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
18584 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:44 pm to
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It's in the first paragraph you inbred illiterate twat
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Nowhere in the article does it mention "in kind contribution" (ctrl+f if you're too slow to read)


Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:47 pm to
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Ah so this entire time when I thought you guys were worried about ICE and taxes and sanctuary cities and racist cops and fascism and abortions and white people in general what’s actually been keeping you up at night is campaign finance laws? Laws are laws right? Except for that pesky illegal immigration law. And exposing classified documents on an illegal server. Or leaking classified info to the press. Or spying on American citizens using fake intel. It’s incredible how the entire left become experts in campaign finance law over night.

It’s almost as if you’re all full of shite


Can we all just take a moment to appreciate this post? Drives right into the heart of the hypocrisy of the liberal left without over-doing it. Well done.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57076 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:50 pm to
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U.S. President Donald Trump’s former personal lawyer Michael Cohen testified on Tuesday that Trump had directed him to commit a crime by arranging payments ahead of the 2016 presidential election to silence two women who said they had affairs with Trump


Point to the portion of this paragraph that states he used campaign funds. He didn’t. The allegation is that Cohen used personal funds. Then was reimbursed by the trump organization. That was an in kind contribution that wasn’t reported. That is the allegation. How can you not know this?

This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
18584 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:52 pm to
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Cohen used personal funds. Then was reimbursed by the trump organization. How can you not know this?


No way that guy was real

I think you nailed it as a faux democrat alter
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:09 pm to
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How were other campaigns treated after being found guilty.


Oh, how thoughtful of you to ask sir!

- Obama’s campaign had to pay $375,000 - the largest fine EVER levied on an individual’s campaign - when his campaign broke finance laws by hiding donors and knowingly keeping illegal contributions.

- Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign took advantage of campaign finance law LOOPHOLES to the tune of $84 MILLION, the first time these laws have been abused on this level. It’s still being investigated.

- The DNC itself had to give back more than $2.8 MILLION that it took from Chinese and Korean donators and pay a $719,000 fine during Bill Clinton’s campaign, there were 22 individual guilty pleas for campaign finance violations.

”The FEC documents describe Democratic fund-raisers who set specific prices for foreign nationals to make illegal campaign contributions in return for meetings with then-President Clinton and Vice President Al Gore. A Democratic finance vice chair, for example, said organizers would have to contribute a total of $100,000 in return for Gore's appearance at a Buddhist temple in Los Angeles.”

- Bob Dole’s campaign had to pay a $120,000 fine after admitting to taking illegal corporate donations and exceeding spending limits in several states.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6776 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:10 pm to
What happened to commingling?
Who commingled?

It was Cohen.

The thread is about campaign violation. It was not Trump’s money. He did not use his personal money to directly pay off Stormy.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:15 pm to
Lanny's take on Edwards.
At first blush, the decision to indict former Sen. John Edwards (D-N.C.) for conspiracy to accept illegal campaign contributions, given the facts and circumstances, seems like a stretch, to say the least.

The definition of “campaign contributions” has never to date been used to apply in this particular fact pattern — when donations were made to a third party, not to the campaign itself, for the purpose of keeping quiet an embarrassing affair of the presidential candidate as well as a child conceived out of wedlock, all of which, if made public at the time, would have “destroyed” his campaign, according to the indictment.

But on second look, after reading the literal words of the definition of “campaign contribution,” and then the factual allegations of the government in the indictment, it does seem possible that the case could lead to a guilty verdict.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57076 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 1:27 pm to
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It was Cohen


How do you think LLCs are normally funded? Is every capital contribution a commingling? I mean. Dude.

This thread is about campaign violations, correct. Who committed the alleged violation? What is the violation?
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6776 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 2:13 pm to
Elliott Broidy republican donor who used the LLC to pay $1.6 million to former Playboy model he impregnated. Billionaire Russian Viktor Vekselberg, AT&T, Novartis, and others paid into the LLC.

Cohen used some of this money for personal use which includes buying a new Mercedes.

This maybe part of the banking fraud. At least $4.4 million was paid into the LLC before the election until January.

Not only used to pay off a Trump mistress, but Elliott Broidy as well.

Again this is not Trumps personal money. It’s not a violation if it is your personal money. He paid Cohen back and not the LLC.
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 2:16 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57076 posts
Posted on 8/22/18 at 2:15 pm to
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Elliott Broidy republican donor who used the LLC to pay $1.6 million to former Playboy model he impregnated. Billionaire Russian Viktor Vekselberg, AT&T, Novartis, and others paid into the LLC. Cohen used some of this money for personal use which includes buying a new Mercedes. This maybe part of the banking fraud. At least $4.4 million was paid into the LLC before the election until January. Not only used to pay off a Trump mistress, but Elliott Broidy as well.


Nothing you listed here is illegal. NDAs are not illegal.

Was Cohen or the LLC reimbursed by trump org?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/22/18 at 2:16 pm to
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For the longest time, Trump financed his own campaign. So if Trump paid these women off at a time when he was financing 100% of his run for the White House, did he break any laws?
Not unless private payments he was making for everything else -- properties, taxes, private dinners, etc -- would also be considered as financed by his campaign.
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