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re: Is it a campaign finance violation if it's your own money?
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:50 am to cahoots
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:50 am to cahoots
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The payment was made days before the election when the information was threatened to be publishe
You accusing stormy of extortion. Because what you just described is extortion.
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Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:51 am to Vecchio Cane
The difference is what is posted above.
Stormy was paid by a LLC. Cohen was paid back not the LLC. This was done with Trumps knowledge
Stormy was paid by a LLC. Cohen was paid back not the LLC. This was done with Trumps knowledge
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 11:52 am
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:52 am to MizzouBS
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Stormy was paid by a LLC. Cohen was paid back not the LLC. This was done with Trumps knowledg
Walk me through this. How is an LLC being involved relevant? Was it a single member LLC? A disregarded entity? What is the relevance and how does it make the act criminal?
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:54 am to BBONDS25
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Walk me through this. How is an LLC being involved relevant? Was it a single member LLC? A disregarded entity? What is the relevance and how does it make the act criminal?
99.9% of our local libtards dont even know what an LLC is
They still melt over BKing companies
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 11:55 am
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:55 am to MizzouBS
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If it’s your own money it is not a campaign finance violation. If it is someone else’s money it is
But it has to be proved that the money was for the purpose of influencing the election, and not for another purpose such has hiding the affairs with the women from his wife which was the defense Edwards used successfully, this a big nothing that go nowhere.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:57 am to MizzouBS
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Stormy was paid by a LLC. Cohen was paid back not the LLC. This was done with Trumps knowledge
So?
What’s the difference legally?
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:57 am to MizzouBS
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The difference is what is posted above. Stormy was paid by a LLC. Cohen was paid back not the LLC. This was done with Trumps knowledge
The payment methods may mirror a form of a campaign finance violation. In fact, I'll take your word for it.
But, if the intent can't be proven then is it really a violation. Isn't it all about intent? How do the payment methods matter if the intent was not a violation?
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:58 am to EA6B
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But it has to be proved that the money was for the purpose of influencing the election, and not for another purpose such has hiding the affairs with the women from his wife which was the defense Edwards used successfully, this a big nothing that go nowhere.
Thank You. This is what I've been failing miserably at saying
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:01 pm to BBONDS25
As long as the LLC and the members do not commingle funds, it is difficult to pierce the LLC veil.
Commingle- “In law, commingling is a breach of trust in which a fiduciary mixes funds held in care for a client with their own funds, making it difficult to determine which funds belong to the fiduciary and which belong to the client. This raises particular concerns where the funds are invested, and gains or losses from the investments must be allocated. In such circumstances, the law usually presumes that any gains run to the client and any losses run to the fiduciary who is guilty of commingling. As one source puts it, "[i]n a pejorative sense, commingling is the special vice of fiduciaries (trustee, agents, lawyers, etc.) in failing to keep a beneficiary's money separate from the fiduciary's own money".”
That’s the difference
Commingle- “In law, commingling is a breach of trust in which a fiduciary mixes funds held in care for a client with their own funds, making it difficult to determine which funds belong to the fiduciary and which belong to the client. This raises particular concerns where the funds are invested, and gains or losses from the investments must be allocated. In such circumstances, the law usually presumes that any gains run to the client and any losses run to the fiduciary who is guilty of commingling. As one source puts it, "[i]n a pejorative sense, commingling is the special vice of fiduciaries (trustee, agents, lawyers, etc.) in failing to keep a beneficiary's money separate from the fiduciary's own money".”
That’s the difference
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:02 pm to MizzouBS
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As long as the LLC and the members do not commingle funds, it is difficult to pierce the LLC veil.
Jesus. Just stop.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:04 pm to MizzouBS
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s long as the LLC and the members do not commingle funds, it is difficult to pierce the LLC veil.
What? members of an LLC commingling funds? You mean like capital contributions? And piercing the veil is also known as piercing the corporate veil. An LLC is specifically a non-corporate entity.
Some states courts have allowed a piercing of an LLC, but in no state is it because funds are commingled. And, to my knowledge, there is no federal basis for piercing an LLC. Where did you get that info? I think maybe you are mixing this up with “alter-ego”. I still don’t see how that changes anything about the payment to stormy. Help me out.
The definition you posted for commingling has nothing to do with an LLC. There is no “beneficiary” of an LLC.
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:06 pm to the808bass
Trump is not a lawyer and probably did not know he was breaking the law. He was trusting his personal lawyer.
That is why I don’t see it as a felony, but I’m not a lawyer.
That is why I don’t see it as a felony, but I’m not a lawyer.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:07 pm to MizzouBS
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Trump is not a lawyer and probably did not know he was breaking the law.
You don’t even understand what you posted. Don’t compound the issue.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:26 pm to the808bass
The thread asked “is it a campaign violation if it’s your own money”.
Stormy was not paid by Trumps own money. She was paid by a LLC. Trump was not a member of the LLC. I’m not saying Trump committed a felony what I am saying it is not his own money. He did not pay the LLC back. He paid back Cohen.
It is not his own money because he is not a member of the LLC.
What Trump knew was he was paying off Stormy
Stormy was not paid by Trumps own money. She was paid by a LLC. Trump was not a member of the LLC. I’m not saying Trump committed a felony what I am saying it is not his own money. He did not pay the LLC back. He paid back Cohen.
It is not his own money because he is not a member of the LLC.
What Trump knew was he was paying off Stormy
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:32 pm to AlceeFortier
At least one person here has a brain. All of the other idiots chanting "nothingburger" are fricking morans and should be sterilized. Take trump's cock out of your mouth for two seconds and realize what you're saying.
Trump paid his hoes campaign funds to stfu and then lied and tried (very piss poorly) to cover it up.
"Stupid watergate" is the understatement of the fricking decad. Rubes.
Donald John Trump is the dumbest person to ever seek office.
Trump paid his hoes campaign funds to stfu and then lied and tried (very piss poorly) to cover it up.
"Stupid watergate" is the understatement of the fricking decad. Rubes.
Donald John Trump is the dumbest person to ever seek office.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:36 pm to themissinglink
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:36 pm to MizzouBS
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It is not his own money because he is not a member of the LLC.
Who are the Members? Also, your statement may or may not be true. Would have to see the operating agreement.
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It is not his own money because he is not a member of the LLC.
Wait. What happened to commingling?
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:37 pm to Vecchio Cane
I mean, if the shoe fits. You can't even spell Winston Churchill's name right. Dumbfrick.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 12:37 pm to themissinglink
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Trump paid his hoes campaign funds to stfu and then lied and tried (very piss poorly) to cover it up.
That isn’t what happened...at all. Nobody is alleging that. The allegation is comey made an in kind contribution. I hope you’re an alter pretending to be a dem to make dems look bad. That is what you are doing. 
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